Gary, I was confused by your original subject line, which hinted at good news about Quicken, so I've changed it. I remember a circular like this being posted a year or so ago, and I'm sure we're all eager to lend support to such an appeal and initiative. But I've never heard of this product outside the context of this listserv. If I were a Quicken user or candidate, I'd want to know whether this program can work alongside Quicken and similar more widespread applications so that blind and sighted colleagues can share their work seamlessly. By analogy, I much prefer WordPerfect as a word processor to MS Word, and I'm fortunate that conversion between the two is quick and simple. I'm not suggesting you have the answer, and it's important that promotions like this be disseminated. But I wonder if other listers with accounting experience have any thoughts. I know many people on this list swear by Excel for accounting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:57 AM To: JawsScripts Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Fw: Quicken 2010 Since this message is forwarded from the GW-info list, it talks about the accounting program the company is marketing being compatible with Window-Eyes, but it also refers to its compatibility with other major screen readers. Since they have both a home and business version of the program, it could be worthwhile giving it a try for either situation. They are welcoming feedback on any accessibility problems. The company is located in New Zealand, but as can be seen from the below message, there are versions for several countries. Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Raewyn Whisker To: gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Quicken 2010 My name is Raewyn Whisker and I work for a company called Accomplish. We have an accessible accounting package called CashManager that works well with Window-Eyes and other major screen readers. What I would like to ask is why would you continue to work with - or communicate with a product or company that is not listening to you? You have alternatives, we do and have listened to our client base. We have a business version, a not for profit version and a home version available and accessible for the USA, UK, Australian and the New Zealand Market. We have worked with individuals and organisations regarding the accessiblility of our product. To name some - NFB, ACB, RNIB, Vision Australia and RNZFB. We are now starting to work with screen reading companies like GW Micro to ensure we get things as easy to use as possible. Our product has been around since 1992, and is well proven for ease of use and functionality. We have been working on the accessiblity of the product since 2006 when it was first bought to our attention that it was accessible. The person who bought this to our attention is a Window-Eyes user! Since then we have worked on making the product 100% keyboard use, we have a 'special code' that changes any 'images' to 'check/uncheck' so anyone using a screen reader can easily understand what is happening, plus other things like labels and dialogue boxes being readable. We know we are not 100% perfect, but then what program is? We have done what we have done because we listen to our clients. Please have a look at our product on www.accomplishglobal.com. You can download a trial version and have a play. You can email me and I will answer your questions. We cannot provide everything to everyone, but if it will benefit our users across the board, and we can do it - we will. There will always be companies out there that care, and those that don't. Way waste your valuable time on those companies that don't care, when you could work with companies that are really trying to make a difference, please give us a shot. If you don't like our product, come back to me and tell me why! If you don't tell us, we will never know and therefore cannot make any changes. Please help us help you! Regards Raewyn Whisker Account Manager Accomplish Limited Phone: +64 9 571 4560 X 715 Email: raewyn.whisker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website: www.accomplishglobal.com Skype: raewyn.whisker From: Solomon Mekonnen <solomoon@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Pat Ferguson <pat.ferguson328@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Quicken 2010 AT the risk of sounding like a truly broken record, let me briefly grab your attentions once again. Thank you so much to all who honored my request and sent message to Mark at Intuit. However, such accessibility issues raised by Pat could be addressed effectively if we bring our voices together. Like the accessibility challenge I recently raised regarding TurboTax, the same point can be emphatically stated about Quicken or QuickBooks. My company uses QuickBooks. But because of accessibility issues, I am at the mercy of my colleagues working under my supervision. Some of us seem to be less moved by such issues unless it is something we personally need. There are individual needs an preferences. But then again, there is a world of marketplace ideas which requires a more conserted action than an individual voice. Let us flood Intuit with accessibility requests regarding all of its products whether or not it is relevant to individual use. Can we? What would it take to convince fellow blind and visually impaired persons to reach beyond individual interest and make a collective, sensible, and audible noise? Best regards Solomon. At 01:16 PM 8/7/2010, you wrote: Hi David and Everyone, We have decided to go with QuickBooks Pro, I think instead of Quicken. Whatever the latest version is. I do hope they make it accessible very soon. Thanks much. Pat Ferguson At 12:07 PM 8/7/2010, you wrote: Hello, I was under the impression that the newer version of Quicken were accessible out of the box as there are no set files for them. I am finding that this program is extremely difficult to use. Does anyone have suggestions on how to best use this product? Sincerely, David Gerry Boston, Massachusetts USA