Hello Adrian, It took a little work but the search function worked. I tried it once and found nothing, but when i specified to expand the search to include hidden files it worked and the nuisance is gone. Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:11 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Applications menu Hi, John. I have two separate suggestions. One method that has helped me delete hard-to-locate files, such as a shortcut, is to search for part of the filename with the Windows find function, as follows: 1. Press windows key with f. 2.Tab twice to "All files and folder." Press spacebar. 3. In the edit filed that appears, type in a part of the filename that is unlikely to turn up a lot of results. Press enter. 4. Wait for JAWS to announce something. On my system, it says simply, "Back," the word that JAWS picks up from the screen when the search finishes. 5. Tab six, or sometimes seven, times to get the list of results. 6. As you arrow down the list of results, listen for likely candidates. When you find one, do a say line key combination, insert-8 on the numpad. That should give you the extended filename. If you can't get the full name and path, go into properties with alt-enter and then into JAWS mode. 7. Eventually you should locate the file or shortcut you need to delete. An alternative method, in light of your original description, is to download a highly accessible program called Unclean from www.jfwlite.com This program reorganizes the add/remove section of the control panel so that it's easy to delete errant application files. As I recall, not only can you download the program from the programs page of the JFWLite website, but you can also get Debbie Scales' helpful hints. I hope one of these methods works for you. A.S. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ramsey Hello, I tried that and when I hit the applications key the second time it did not bring up the menu. I don't know how else to get rid of it. I appreciate your help though. Take care, John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of GB Errow down to the item in that menu and then hit the application key on the keyboard, (same as right click) and you get a menu and errow down to deleate and hit enter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Ramsey Hello, I apologize in advance for this off topic message, but I have a problem that some of you may be able to help me with. If not, maybe you can direct me to someone who can. I have a shortcut in my applications drop down menu that refers to a non existing program and I do not know how to get rid of it. If anyone can help I will greatly appreciate it. Once again, I do apologize for the off topic message. Take care, John