Can a program like PDF Exchange Viewer be used independently of Adobe Reader? PDF is a format created by Adobe. I ask out of ignorance. Still, David gave you a good and constructive response. The problems you're having with Adobe Reader, other than its size, are ones many of us no longer experience. There's been a lot of good information passed along on this list about how best to use it. If you want to object to the accessibility of a program like PDF Exchange Viewer, take it up with the company that makes it. Adobe appears to have put a lot of work into making its PDF files accessible to visually impaired people, and I for one appreciate it. The days when I could hardly handle PDF files at all were bleak. _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:01 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Alternatives to Adobe reader that are jaws friendly Thanks. I do appreciate that, but as I said, I am looking for alternatives. It isn't right that we jaws users are stuck with certain applications, but that's a discussion of a whole other sort. ----- Original Message ----- From: David <mailto:davidwhitehead1957@xxxxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Alternatives to Adobe reader that are jaws friendly well, I find that; adobe 9.exe, works quite well, you also can use a OCR program like kurzweil. I find adobe 10x a little flaky, however as I indicated, adobe 9 works fine. ----- Original Message ----- From: JM Casey <mailto:crystallogic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:06 PM Subject: Alternatives to Adobe reader that are jaws friendly Hello everyone. So I really hate adobe reader. It's ridiculously huge when all I want to do is read text, installs a speed launcher in memory that I don't want, and crashes almost every time I close it. There are a number of other programmes out there that sensible people use, like PDF XChange viewer, but I haven't heard much from jaws users on this subject. This list is pretty much my only contact with the screenreading community in general and I don't really have the time or inclination to try a bunch of programmes until I find one that works. I know adobe reader has special accessibility features and so abandoning their horrible software might not be as easy for us as it is for sighted users. Any thoughts? Thanks. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3410 - Release Date: 01/29/11 07:37:00