Re: Add aware scripts not working in 7.10
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:45:59 -0700
Well, people on these lists often seem to transmit to each other solely
hotkey ways to operate nearly anything, with scarcely a reference to the
operations and functions of the program in question. At least that's what
I've notice, time and time again. In other words, it isn't from the menus
and their lists of related functions and commands that many people learn the
convenient hotkeys. Rather, that's the only way they instruct each other
about how to use a program or execute a task, in the first place.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: Add aware scripts not working in 7.10
Of course that's what a person should always do. I mean, you can't figure
out a hotkey without looking at the control to see if it has one, correct?
I've used shift numpad 5 a number of times (no pun intended) to see if a
button or edit box has a hotkey for it..
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Add aware scripts not working in 7.10
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:50:51 -0700
Fully agreed, Alicia. In fact, I wish that more blind computer users would
be encouraged to take the time and actually learn menus and controls of the
myriad applications that Jaws makes accessible, rather than resorting to
hotkeys up front, without even learning anything about how a given interface
is designed for general use. The problem resulting is a loss of context and
understanding of many a program, a kind of tunnel view of computer usage
that isn't ultimately as enabling or educational as would be helpful. But
in any case, I'm fine just so I can find the controls and understand what
I'm to do with them.
this fodesinged.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alicia" <astarner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: Add aware scripts not working in 7.10
I agree! I think that if a program is made useable by writing scripts
whether you have to tab around to find a control or by a hotkey the luxury
is the ability to use the program. I myself do not mind tabbing around to
find a particular control because it gives you the ability to see what other
kinds of buttons there are. I often times do not use hot keys because if I
do not use them everyday I forget them so I do believe that if scripts make
a program that is unusable by JAWS users easier and possible to use then the
scripts are doing their job.
Alicia
"The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
>seeing people towards them."
>- Helen Keller, 1925
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Add aware scripts not working in 7.10
> If I recall correctly, the main point of Dean's writing these scripts
> wasn't
> to enable Jaws users to use hotkeys, exactly, although hotkey operation
> turned out to be the way he designed it too work. Had AdAware been
> possible
> to use with Jaws by simply tabbing round to the controls and clicking on
> them, instead, hotkeys or no hotkeys, I believe that would have been
> sufficient. But when AdAware underwent an upgrade and interface
redesign,
> it wasn't possible anymore to use it with Jaws, whether by tabbing around
> the controls *or* by hotkeys,if I recall. So just to clarify, unless of
> course I'm misremembering. I, for one, would have been equally satisfied
> to
> be able to just tab around and click on controls, if it had worked with
> Jaws. I like the hotkey approach just fine, too. But I wouldn't freak
> out
> just because it turns out I havee to tab to a control and click on it, so
> long as I know what to do. Fine with me, as I sexpect it might be with
> others, as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alicia" <astarner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Add aware scripts not working in 7.10
>
>
> I have had the same problem. I have also merged the settings and
> recompiled
> the scripts and still can not run a scan using 7.1.
>
> Alicia
>
> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
>>seeing people towards them."
>>- Helen Keller, 1925
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Add aware scripts not working in 7.10
>
>
>>I have not tried this in the final release, however, in all the betas it
>> worked. Will check it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rose Combs
>> rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Wendy Alling
>> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:45 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Add aware scripts not working in 7.10
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> With jaws 7.10, I found that add-aware did not work when I went to run a
>> scan. I merged my previous version of jaws which was 6.0, and the merge
>> was
>> successful, but when I went to run add aware again, the scripts still
did
>> not work. I checked and the 2.1 scripts were loaded. I recompiled them
>> thinking that might be the problem, but they still did not work
properly.
>> Where I noticed a problem was when I went to perform a scan and after
the
>> message press control n to begin scanning, I did this and it said next
>> button not found so something is not working right. Anyone have an
>> opinion
>> on how to resolve this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Wendy
>>
>> At 12:31 PM 06/24/2006, you wrote:Agreed, but Eric's human like the rest
>> of
>> us.
>>>bruce
>>>
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>>>On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Rose Combs wrote:
>>>
>>>>I saw that after I posted, it should have been included in the message
>>>>concerning the release in my humble opinion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rose Combs
>>>>rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>Behalf Of Bruce Toews
>>>>Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:03 AM
>>>>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: RE: JAWS 7.1 release is now posted
>>>>
>>>>As Debbie posted a few days ago, the update feature's not working for
>>>>the final release is a deliberate action on FS's part.
>>>>bruce
>>>>
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>>>>On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Rose Combs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The update feature did not work for me either but I went directly to
>>>>>the FS page and downloaded it without a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rose Combs
>>>>>rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>Behalf Of Hal Pearson
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 4:42 PM
>>>>>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: Re: JAWS 7.1 release is now posted
>>>>>
>>>>>Debbie, odd thing is that when I go to check for updates, I'm told I
>>>>>am running the latest Jaws version. I tried twenty minutes ago in
>>>>>fact. My understanding is that you are supposed to be able to
>>>>>download and install the final release when checking for updates. But
>>>>>perhaps not so I'll just go and download it from the freedom site.
>>>>>But again knowing me I'll try again, and the install will work
>> flawlessly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:49 PM
>>>>>Subject: Fw: JAWS 7.1 release is now posted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>All,
>>>>>Both the ILM release version and the Demo version of 7.1 are now
>>>>>posted on the Web site. I have also included the list of Fixes from
>>>>>the What's New page that went in between the final beta and final
>>>>>release. Regards, Eric Damery
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Fixes in the Final Release Version
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The release version of JAWS 7.10 was made available on Thursday, June
>>>>>21, 2006. The following issues were fixed between the last public
>>>>>beta update and the final release version of JAWS:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. When you customize a list view, the selected item is now properly
>>>>>announced when you use first letter navigation.
>>>>>2. When using a language that reads from right to left, you can now
>>>>>select text properly.
>>>>>3. In previous versions, when you had detected SAPI 4 synthesizers
>>>>>and then added a synthesizer using Installation Maintenance, JAWS
>>>>>removed the detected SAPI 4 synthesizers from the Language menu. The
>>>>>issue does not occur with version 7.10 and the new Synthesizer and
>>>>>Braille Manager.
>>>>>4. You can now successfully install Spybot 1.4 while JAWS is running.
>>>>>5. When using MAGic and JAWS together, JAWS can now successfully
>>>>>recognize check box states in ActiveSync.
>>>>>6. When using MAGic and JAWS together, the JAWS setting for Document
>>>>>Presentation Mode overrides MAGic's settings.
>>>>>7. The JAWS TypeString function no longer inserts a grave character
>>>>>when using a British English keyboard layout.
>>>>>8. If you use the /Type SilentRemote parameter to install JAWS on a
>>>>>remote server, JAWS no longer prompts you to install video intercept
>>>>>drivers when it starts.
>>>>>9. Drivers for the Alva Satellite braille display can now be
>>>>>installed correctly from the Synthesizer and Braille Manager.
>>>>>10. In Internet Explorer, JAWS now compensates correctly for unclosed
>>>>>anchors in HTML code.
>>>>>11. JAWS now reads the Title attribute for form fields on Web pages.
>>>>>
>>>>>12. Performance and responsiveness in Forms Mode has been improved.
>>>>>13. JAWS no longer stops speaking when you visit a certain Web site.
>>>>>
>>>>>14. When you use the TAB key to move to links on certain Web pages,
>>>>>JAWS no longer repeats the link if you are using a braille display
>>>>>and Screen Track Virtual is enabled.
>>>>>15. In Internet Explorer, JAWS no longer appends a heading line at
>>>>>the end of each check box in a list of check boxes while you are in
>>>>>Forms Mode.
>>>>>16. Resolved an issue with read multi-line edit boxes in Forms Mode.
>>>>>
>>>>>17. Resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading some content on
>>>>>certain Web pages.
>>>>>18. JAWS now reads lists that are nested inside tables correctly.
>>>>>19. JAWS now correctly recognizes selection lists on certain Web
>>>>>pages.
>>>>>20. You can now access unlabeled extended selection list boxes in Web
>>>>>forms.
>>>>>21. In Firefox, JAWS now recognizes line breaks correctly.
>>>>>22. In Firefox, JAWS no longer repeats access keys for links.
>>>>>23. In Outlook, JAWS now reads the drop-down list correctly when you
>>>>>add a new contact.
>>>>>24. In Outlook, JAWS now announces list items in the Options > Tools
>>>>>dialog box.
>>>>>25. In Outlook, JAWS now correctly reads the Look In combo box when
>>>>>you save a message.
>>>>>26. In Word 2003, JAWS no longer fails when you open the Macro
>>>>>Security dialog box and use the arrow keys to navigate the radio
>>>>>buttons.
>>>>>27. When checking your spelling in PowerPoint, JAWS no longer reads
>>>>>the previous incorrect word and suggestion instead of the current
>>>>>word and suggestion.
>>>>>28. In PowerPoint and Word, JAWS now reads the File Name edit box
>>>>>correctly after you move to it from a combo box.
>>>>>29. In Microsoft Access, JAWS now provides complete information while
>>>>>navigating tables.
>>>>>30. Text that you type into PDF form fields now appears correctly on
>>>>>your braille display.
>>>>>31. In Adobe Reader, navigation in Forms Mode using the TAB key has
>>>>>been improved.
>>>>>32. In Adobe Acrobat/Reader, JAWS now announces date/time edit boxes
>>>>>correctly.
>>>>>33. In Adobe Reader, PDF documents now open correctly inside browser
>>>>>windows.
>>>>>34. In Adobe Reader, you can now use the arrow keys to select radio
>>>>>buttons.
>>>>>35. JAWS now reads text fields in the Adobe Acrobat/Reader user
>>>>>interface correctly.
>>>>>36. Resolved an issue with reading tables in Java applications.
>>>>>37. In AOL 9.0 Security Edition, JAWS no longer reads the dates of
>>>>>e-mail messages twice when you navigate the list of messages in your
>>>>>inbox.
>>>>>38. In Lotus Notes, JAWS now correctly announces the open/closed
>>>>>status of folders.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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