[jawsscripts] Re: Saying two messages with a specific period of silence in between
- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:08:44 -0400 (EDT)
I suggested adding such a function, e.g., named IsJAWSSpeaking(), as well
as several other suggestions I collected from this list a year or so ago.
I sent the collection of scripting related suggestions to a few different,
relevant contacts at FS. I received no response -- not even a polite but
non-substantive"thank you for your suggestions which we will consider ..."
It was quite discouraging. Personally, I have found GW micro
management/developers to be much more responsive to feedback and
suggestions from scripters as they have been developing Window-Eyes 7.0.
I still value JAWS and find pros and cons between the two screen
readers. If FS does not start listening and responding to developers,
however, I think it will lose significant ground to the up and coming
competition.
Jamal
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Geoff Chapman wrote:
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:18:34 +1000
> From: Geoff Chapman <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Saying two messages with a specific period of
> silence in between
>
> Wow, I'm seriously surprised jaws doesn't already include some logic/dece=
nt
> indexing functions like this doug. are you in constant communication with
> Erric and developers about this kind of thing? surely you guys are REALLY
> WHAT SHOULD BE DRIVING DEVELOPER AND MARKETING SCHEDULES AS REGARDS
> IMPROVEMENT TO THE JAWS ScreenReader in general ought not you?
>
> you are the ones that have the real knowledge of what stuff needs to be i=
n
> there to make what needs to happen, happen.
>
> From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:00 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Saying two messages with a specific period of
> silence in between
>
>
> > This is a very clever suggestion actually, and one I think I tried
> > once but forgot about. It may help, but I still doubt it will work as
> > well as you'd like. The SayAll process does not actually keep code
> > execution in precise sync with speech. You can stop SayAll on an
> > exact word, but this is actually done by retreating to that word
> > rather than literally catching JAWS in the act of saying it.
> >
> > The SayAll system does prove, however, that JAWS internally has enough
> > information to implement something like I suggested before, direct
> > access to synthesizer indexing functionality.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
> > This is a hack, but you can do a SayAll in the user buffer, and tell
> > when it completes with the SayAllStoppedEvent function. You could
> > either speak the second message within that function, or use that event
> > handler to set a global variable indicating that a SayAll has stopped.
> > Your script would go into a While loop testing the global variable
> > before exiting.
> >
> > Jamal
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> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > I would like JAWS to say two messages with exactly two-second silence=
in
> > > between.
> > > Neither Delay (20), nor twenty Pause () commands works,
> > > since both starts right after the first message is sent to the TTS, n=
ot
> w=3D
> > hen
> > > it's completely spoken.
> > > I tried counting number of words in the first message,
> > > and calculating the time needed for it to be completely spoken using =
the
> > > current speech rate.
> > > The result varies based on the total number of sylabels in the messag=
e.
> > >
> > > Can you think of a better solution?
> > > As far as I know, there is no function such as TtsIsDoneEvent or
> IsTtsBus=3D
> > y.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Camille
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