Nope, actually I had forgotten about that. What's the magic switch? jaws /default ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hart" <ahart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 10:13 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: MSAA Object Tracking Jim, Hey, did you get him to try running JAWS with the /default switch to eliminate any user settings that could possibly be gumming up the works? Cheers, Andrew. On 6/05/2013 9:56 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote: > That's right, guys. I know how to use those functions. I'm just trying > to > figure why his system broke. He wasn't running any custom scripts at all. > After he removed jaws 13 and 14, including the shared components, he > installed jaws 11, which should now be the definitive last word on shared > components. And,it no longer worked with that application. He says he > removed shared components but, Of course, I wasn't there and can't verify > that. I know he believes that. <grin> > But, he probably left user-specific settings. No matter, he wasn't > running > those versions any more. He was running jaws 11, which used to work. > Shared components are the only link between jaws versions that I know of. > > Can I learn anything from the file version of jawsVid.dll? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:21 PM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: MSAA Object Tracking > > > Yeah. Like John, it seemed to me also, > that at least initially, Jim seemed more to be querying what could > possibly > be different about his system compared to his Client's, as regards MSA > object tracking behaviour anomalies. > > there are just sooo many caveats to tracking down all this stuff eh. > > I wonder Jim had your client removed all their user settings when they did > the jaws uninstalls? > either manually, or allowing the uninstaller to do so? > > Doesn't it ask at some point if one wishes to remove those? I just can't > recall now. > > <sigh.>. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jon squally" <jonsqually@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 7:00 PM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: MSAA Object Tracking > > >> >> Hello all. >> >> I do not think that Jim is really asking how to develop further >> functionality here. I had a similar issue a while back. >> >> It should be noted that my issue was with an application that used MSAA >> and IE window throughout the scripts and that the issue was with Jaws >> 12.0. The way I resolved this was to insure that all signs of Jaws >> specific folders were manually removed. The user settings were also >> deleted. This is after uninstalling all versions of Jaws and shared >> components. Additionally I reinstalled the version recompiled the >> script >> file in question within TextPad using SCompile. I also seem to remember >> setting an MSAA flag within my JCF file. The msaa mode can be checked in >> script utility mode.I finally got this working again after realizing that >> Th jaws installer does what seems like more of a complete installation >> when all remnants are removed first. The other question to ask is how >> are >> other programs doing when using MSAA? I hope this helps, Jon. >> >> Jon Squally >> Adaptive Computer Solutions LLC >> Bridging the Gap to Software Accessibility >> Jaws certified 92% 6/2011 >> Web site: <http://www.jonsqually.com> >> Phone: 503.752.2291 >> Fax: 503.536.6795 >> Email: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> On May 3, 2013, at 9:28 PM, John Martyn <johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> Did you try GetObjectName? >>> Joh >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Snowbarger >>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:31 PM >>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] MSAA Object Tracking >>> >>> This one has me stumped. I wonder if you guys have any ideas. >>> A client has approached me with a problem application, one of the lovely >>> Izotope audio applications. It's another one of those apps where the >>> jaws >>> cursor sees only the window title bar, and nothing else. >>> The company did some work to make it accessible through MSAA. As a >>> result >>> of that, Jaws is generally tracking the control with focus as you tab >>> around. But, the implementation seems a little strange. If you poke >>> around >>> with the jaws cursor, and just happen to find your way to the control >>> with >>> focus, you can do getObjectAtPoint, and get the object. But, it has no >>> parent, no children, and no peers. It is just out in space all by >>> itself. >>> Jaws can speak the object if you call >>> SayObjectTypeAndText(). >>> >>> >>> >>> The problem started to develop when he upgraded to jaws 13, on windows 7 >>> 64 >>> bit, in that some controls were not spoken, while most still were. But, >>> when he bumped up to jaws 14, all object tracking ceased. He can no >>> longer >>> hear control names, and >>> >>> SayObjectTypeAndText() just says the name of the main window, no matter >>> where he thinks he is focused. NVDA is able to track the object just >>> fine. >>> But, jaws has lost track. >>> >>> >>> >>> He removed jaws 14 and shared components. Even removed jaws 13 and >>> shared, >>> though presumably there weren't any. So, he thinks he is clean. But >>> installing jaws 13 by itself, did not recover to previous jaws 13 >>> behavior, >>> but now exhibits the jaws 14 behavior of not speaking the control in >>> focus. >>> >>> >>> >>> The weird thing is that jaws 14 tracks the object just fine on my >>> system, >>> though I have not installed the latest patch, after reading some of the >>> comments made here. I think he had done so. >>> >>> >>> >>> Actually, I thought shared components was mostly video intercept logic, >>> and >>> would have nothing to do with MSAA. >>> >>> So, I'm at a loss to help him figure out how to get that working again. >>> Thus, I come to you. >>> >>> Anybody have any suggestions? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks very much. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________� >>> >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >>> >>> __________� >>> >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >>> >> __________� >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> > > __________� > > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > > > __________� > > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > > __________� View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts __________� View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts