can you get mp3s at 320? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Lockwood" <rscripts@xxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes Being a Pain!!! > You might try Pandora radio. > You type in a song name and pandora will play songs from the internet > similar to it. It is like genious. > > If you desire to buy a song which is playing, you can buy it. > > I like it. > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Harmony Neil<mailto:harmonylm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:14 AM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes Being a Pain!!! > > > Hellow Geoff, > Thanks for all the advice! I turned off auto forms mode and pretty much > worked from there really. I've already sinked my iphone with the > computer, > so I should now be able to go through my iphone and download some > application. > Anyone got any suggestions for good, preferably free aps to try? > Thanks so much! > Harmony. > *happy* > > -----Original Message----- > From: > jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman > Sent: 04 January 2010 4:27 PM > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes Being a Pain!!! > > hi there. > > Do not think me rude, but I'm not sure if your first name is harmony or > Neil, so I'll circumnavigate that one by not using either! <he he!> > > well, yes I do have ideas, but they are extree'ee'ee'eemely messy ones, > and > not the simple straight ahead solution I know you'll desire, prefer, and > fervently wish for! > > first of all, I regret to have to tell you, > that even if you succeed in registering your account with the latest > version > of ITunes 9, > which I know apple will probably insist that you'll need to do the > funkiest > connectivity things with your IPhone, whether that's correct or not would > of > course depend on the specific things your wanting to do, but, I can tell > you > right now, that if after reading this, you are able to setup/register > your > account with ITunes with version 9 independently, > which won't be easy I can tell you, but will possibly, > be remotely dooable with persistence, patience and a lot of fiddling > around, > or if you can snaffle sighted help to do so, by far the easiest and > simplest > way in my view at this point, > so far as my testings here are concerned, > even if you can do that, apple have well and truly flat out broken, > blatently disabled, any accessible keyboard driven previewing and > purchasing, of > music at least, from the ITunes store, in all itunes versions 9x, that > I've > been able to determine! > I don't know if that includes apps or not though. > > Version 8.2.1 is the lateest version which provides keyboard accessible > navigating, previewing and purchasing of music at least, using the f6 key > to > navigate the various ITunes panes, and to the most important list view > pane, > which provided upDown arrow navigation, enter to preview tunes etc, and > the > applications/context menu key, to provide the menu, from which the > option, > "Buy or get currently selected songs table item," > could be chosen, by hitting enter on it etc. > > this version can be found here: > > or at least it could: > > > >http://www.oldapps.com/itunes.php?appÙd4f495e875a2e075a1a4a6e1b9770f > > this previously accessible method of purchasing/previewing, seems > however, > to me, to be totally broken in ITunes 9. they've just disabled f6 even > moving to that listView at all, sighted people tell me it's visible on > the > screen, but I couldn't even read any of the text supposedly visible to > them > in that list view, with the jawsCursor any more! Nor does it seem > possible > any more to read *any* of the previously visible information in the > ITunes > store itself, with the jawsCursor. > that used to also be visible to us with jaws cursor > in previous versions of ITunes, so you could at least stumble around and > click on things if you had to. But I can no longer even do that with > ITunes > version 9 any more. > > it's not a happy story! > > a few questions I think before I go much further then, given the above: > > 1. How keen/dedicated are you towards achieving this. > 2. would you say your a patient person with computers? > 3. what would you say your familiarization with use of jawsCursor is > like, > and would you say you have a high frustration tolerance level > with stumbling around on computers? > <grin.> > 4. can you snaffle any sighted help easily? > > ok, just testing creating a new account here with the combo you have, of > itunes 9.0.2.25, and jaws11. > I'll tell you here, if you are persistent, that the secret I think I've > discovered with filling in forms on this puppy, > is, ... ok, deep breath here. > first of all, disable autoForms mode, in verbosity menu, so jaws11 > behaves > like older jaws versions, where you had to hit enter to turn on forms > mode, > and jaws would say, forms mode on etc. > > second, in Itunes, There's not what we'd consider normative virtual > cursor > and realWorld cursor > corelation, between what your hearing as you navigate with arrows, and > what > Itunes itself actually thinks has focus. > Meaning, unlike on normal webPages, They don't track each other. > in other words, if you hit f6 to get to the virtual cursor type pane, and > you arrow > around, as you naturally would in virtual cursor land, to read all the > surrounding forms labels, and what it's asking you to do, e.g. type your > email address as apple ID, type your passWord, verify your passWord, make > up > a question to help them with IDentity, > type your answer to that question, > Ehnter your date of birth to help us verify, with Day and month list > Boxes, > then checkboxes for Would you like to recieve the following via email, > new releases and additions to the ITunes store CheckBox, > News, software updates, special offers etc checkbox, > with the Go back, cancel, and continue buttons at the bottom, > > so, if you get to a place where you can read all that with your virtual > cursor arrows, > and so you try and start to fill in this form and arrow down to the first > edit box from the top which you see a label for, called Email address, > and > hit enter there, jaws wil indeed say, Forms mode on, but, as you > discovered, > it won't let you type anything there, because, ITunes hasn't immediately > brought focus to that edit box and enabled normal application > interaction, > as you'd expect it to. > in other words, you haven't actually tabbed to the edit box. > That's what you gotta do all the time n this puppy, tab to things rather > than arrowing to them in virtual pc cursor land. > > Basically the major deal with this is, you've got to tab to each edit > box, > without bothering about hitting enter to turn on forms mode, because > iTunes > under jaws anyway, automatically gives you typeable edit boxes, without > doing that, but, you have to tab to them first. > and of course when you do that, to demonstrate it's ready to recieve > text, > you can hit numPad Plus, and it should say, "PC Cursor," rather than > "virtual Pc cursor," which it will say, if your in virtual pc land. > > But, of course, this means, that you can't just flip out of forms mode, > back > into virtual cursor land again, to try and read around your area, as you > normally would, to get a sense of what your supposed to do next, in > between > each form field. > it won't allow you. it'll stay "stuck," in it's own version of forms > mode. > it'll recieve text in that edit box now, but, you won't be able to arrow > anywhere up or down out of that, because your in the ITunes forced kind > of > forms mode, or > direct interactivity with the application mode, > etc. > > see what I mean when I say it's reeeally tricky? and we haven't got the > half > of it yet! > > ok so you now tab to each edit box, and fill them in as some of the > prompts > will at least now identify partially what they are for. i.e. > 1. email address as apple ID, > 2. passWord, > 3. Verify password, > etc. > now you can try and route jawsCursor to pc cursor, but, you wil find a > whole > bunch of interwoven and confused information there, but at least the > account > registration pane is visible to jawsCursor. so it's quite hard with that, > to > figure out what goes where, if you get stuck. > now if you tab to a place where you hear, a number like,1, that means > your > not in an edit box, and, you will have been returned to the virtual Pc > cursor mode, so you can once again use your arrows to explore the page if > you need to, but be aware that in this mode, you may not be able to read > information, that you've actually typed into your edit boxes above. don't > freek out at that. if you wanna confirm them, shiftTab back to each one, > and > hit readCurrent line to checkem. > turning on SayHighlightedText for ScreenEcho, with insert+s, to the point > where it says, "highlighted," mayh also help to more automatically read > some > edit box text. screen echo is set to none by default in the Jaws Config > for > ITunes eh. > > ok. so the next edit box is the question you should make up, to help them > identify you. jaws should say Question edit. > so you can type that there, then tab to next edit box, which should > identify > as, "answer edit," and type the answer. > > ok so next, is the slightly trickier bit. > jaws might just say, 1." if you hit jawsKey+UpArrow, to read current > line, > you'll hear what they want you to do here. it's actually a day list box, > to > enter your date of birth. but, to make it actually work with arrow keys, > you've got to turn off virtual cursor at this point, with insert+zed. > because unlike the edit boxes, it's not smart enough to do this for you, > to > enable list box arrow navigation. > so, hit insert+zed, to turn off the virtual cursor temporarily. now, > this, > day, listbox, should actually change as you hit arrow keys, but of course > you won't hear the changes as your making them. you'll have to hit > ReadCurrent line, to hear what your up to at any given point, to confirm > what your entering is correct. > . home and end do also work to jump to 1 to 31 in this listBox. > > then tab again to the next Month list Box. this is more easily identified > because jaws should say, "january," which is the first month selected. > same > deal. use arrows to change, and readCurrentLine to verify. > > lastly on that first page, there's two more check boxes, which spaceBar > should work to alter, about special offers and junk to recieve via email. > then some go back, cancel and continue buttons. > > then you get your payment information stuff. again, you can explore the > page with virtual cursor arrows, before you begin tabbing to things, but > you > won't be able to just hit enter to start editing anything here, like your > card number etc. you have to tab to them, then don't hit enter, just > start > typing them. ituens should except them. > the expiration dates for your card, are the same type of listBoxes as the > Birthday month on previous page. you must turn off virtual Cursor with > insert+zed, then navigate these with arrows. > then turn it back on again, to do the rest of the page of edit boxes. you > don't need to enter anything into the edit box where it says, "code," or > title, just fill in your first name last name address etc, all those edit > boxes, should speak their labels relatively intuitively as you tab > through > this. > > oh yeah. also, if you take too long, you might get a "your session has > timed > out! please gry your operation from the beginning!" and that wil no doubt > bring you great joy! hahahahaha. not! > > > All the best with that eh. > let us know if your successful. but, if you really wanna actually be able > to > indepednently buy anything, if itunes 8 will do what you need with your > IPhone, I'd heartily recommend, after you've registered your account as > above, because all that applies to ITunes 9, not 8, uninstalling 9, and > installing 8.2.1. or installing it perhaps on another user profile under > windows, if it'll let you do that. so you can maybe actually buy things. > > > all the best with this and please let me know if your successful at > following this rediculousness! > > geoff c. > > To: > <chill-out-lounge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:chill-out-lounge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>; > <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>; > <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>; > <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:04 AM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Itunes Being a Pain!!! > > > > Hellow, > > I'm just trying to register with itunes so I can get things for the ap > store > > for my aiphone, but I can't seem to be able to type in the boxes where > I'm > > meant to without a lot of difficulty. Also I can't at all select the > expiry > > date when I fill in my card details. Does anyone have any ideas how to > fix > > this? > > > > I am using the latest version of itunes with jaws 11 and windows 7 on > my > > laptop. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Harmony. > > > > > > > > __________ > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository > http://jawsscripts.com<http://jawsscripts.com/> > > > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts<//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts> > > > > __________ > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository > http://jawsscripts.com<http://jawsscripts.com/> > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts<//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts> > > __________ > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository > http://jawsscripts.com<http://jawsscripts.com/> > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts<//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts> > > > __________ > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com > > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts