[jawsscripts] Re: Can Logos 4 be scripted?
- From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters15@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:13:39 -0400
The MSAA object ID's.
Dean
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From: Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 5:37 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Can Logos 4 be scripted?
Which object hierarchy do you mean?
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:03:20PM +0100, Sean Farrow wrote:
Hi :
Doug, can you remember whether GetNex/PreviousChild worked in the object
hierarchy?
I've got a Silverlight app I'll need to use at work for analysing log files.
Cheers
Sean.
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Can Logos 4 be scripted?
Unfortunately, and like much of the scripting I do, the Silverlight
scripting I did was part of a contract and is therefore not something I can
just drop out in public. :) I can tell you a few things though.
Some of the uncertainty here is for my lack of recollection...
If GetFocusObject() won't get you an MSAA object, getObjectFromEvent on the
Silverlight window with an objID of -4 (ObjID_Client) should.
>From that MSAA object, obj.accFocus should get you the focused object, for
>which you can then get properties like accName, accDescription, etc.
obj.accParent works too, so you can get parent properties up to the top
level. accNavigate and indexing by childID does not work however.
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:52:48PM -0400, Dean Masters wrote:
With earlier versions of Logos you could download the basic program with a
couple of books for free but I didn't see anything like that on the current
site. It is:
http://www.logos.com/
Would you send us your Silverlite scripts so we could see what you did with
that program?
Dean
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From: Doug Lee
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:37 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Can Logos 4 be scripted?
I've scripted for Microsoft Silverlight, which I believe shares much with
WPF. Would be interesting to know what's available there.
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 07:54:01PM -0400, Dean Masters wrote:
Logos 4 is based on wpf programming. So the only things JAWS can read is
what Logos puts in the program. With the latest update you can open a book
by using the library. then you can read the first line with a SayLine. Then
if you hit the down arrow and do a SayLine it just scrolls the text a few
words to the right.
I wrote a lot of scripts for Logos 3 years ago but nothing in Logos 4 is
scriptable.
I think with Windows 8 JAWS won't be able to use the visual hooks like in
earlier Windows so I wonder if we might be able to read the text with the
normal keystrokes once the new version of JAWS comes out?
They are trying to work on accessibility in Logos 4 but they onnly have the
demo version of JAWS. They told me that with NVDA they can read the text on
the screen. so that is why I am wondering if we might be able to when the
new version of JAWS comes out.
Dean
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From: Merv Keck
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:50 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Can Logos 4 be scripted?
I have Logos 4 Platinum Edition but am still a basic beginner when it comes
to scripting. However, I can tell you that Logos 4 is cloud based as opposed
to Logos 3. Since losing most of my usuable vision about 15 months ago I
have pretty much lost the ability to use many of my non -english language
studies such as Hebrew, Greek, and Akkadian cuneiform. The read aloud
drives me crazy and the accessibility features built into Logos 4 are
problematic but I understand from some other blind Logos 4 users that they
are trying to make Logos morfe accessible so I have high expectations
especially since I have over 2,000 resources tied up into Logos since 2001
and don't want to give up on it.
blind5sparrow
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From: Doug Lee
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:39 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Can Logos 4 be scripted?
If you're at all handy with Script Utility Mode, check out the window class
name of the main window, whether it has descendants, and whether it has MSAA
objects. If you have just a single window, no MSAA objects, and no OSM text
(which is what you already discovered), you found a difficult case, and
something like Hot Spot Clicker may be your best bet. If you see a window
tree and/or a set of MSAA objects, it might be possible to script that.
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 05:07:49PM -0400, John Thomas wrote:
Hi
A few years ago I wrote a set of scripts for version 3 of the Logos Bible
software program. A couple months after I finished, the Logos folks rolled
out version 4. It is built on a totally different platform. My evaluation of
version 4 is that it cannot be scripted. I just want to check my assumptions
with the list here to see if my assessment is correct.
I assume it cannot be scripted, because I cannot read any text with either
the JAWS or Invisible cursor. The only thing I can read is the name of the
program with the PC cursor. The cursor routing functions also do not work.
With the previous version, I could use the invisible cursor to read any text
that was visible to a sighted user. Since I cannot read anything with the
JAWS or Invisible cursors, I assume there is really nothing I can do with
version 4. Is this correct?
Thanks,
John
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