[jawsscripts] Re: Atmosphere Deluxe
- From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 21:46:31 -0800
It doesn't give me any values, even after analyzing the windows more than
once.
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeet.kumar1@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 8:25 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Atmosphere Deluxe
I am afraid to say that you have to find information, like values for
sliders, other things for your windows you want to access.
If still no luck, mail any of us the report file, and we shall try to
determine the needful
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
> I'm trying out Windig with Atmosphere Deluxe, and I'm not sure what to do
> next. I analyze the window with Windig, and it opens a document with
> Internet Explorer with all the window information. Now I'm confused on
what
> to do next!
>
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Jeet.kumar1@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:22 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Atmosphere Deluxe
>
> If talking of WinDig, it does.
> Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
>
>> Another thing I hope is that it works with Windows 7.
>>
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>>
> Jeet.kumar1@xxxxxxxxx
>
>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 8:24 PM
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>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Atmosphere Deluxe
>>
>> Inline replys:
>>
>>
>>> 1. What's Windig?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> of course a software, (to dig-out the information available from a
>> program/window). Please download.
>> <http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe>
>>
>>
>>> 2. Will it cost me anything? If so, how much?
>>> sure, nothing as free lunch, it will cost you some efforts, time, and
>>>
>>>
>> bandwidth.
>>
>> hahaha
>> UIA is the accessibility api like MSAA.
>> Thank you, Jitendra.
>>
>>
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>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> Jeet.kumar1@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:20 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Atmosphere Deluxe
>>>
>>> Please try all of them...
>>> As doug pointed nicely, we need to know more, like:
>>> 1. swich to screen echo to all and change the sliders, if value
>>> changes and text gets written to screen, JAWS would read it, perhaps
>>> it is on the status line, etc.
>>> 2. using homerow utilities, try using tab and shift+tab, f2 and added
>>> shift with it, to find the text window whose text has just changed on
>>> slider change.
>>> if no avail, I am afraid there may be no possibilities perhaps, don't
>>> know about UIA approach though.
>>> 3. there may be another thing which used to be with goldwave earlier,
>>> and after a talk to Chris, I made him correct it.
>>> resting the mouse on the slider, the current value was displayed for a
>>> flash and vanished soon, and he correct as I have said.
>>> If so, this can also be resolved with some scripts.
>>> You can do another thing, and perhaps it is the last one, try windig
>>> on this application, and read or mail us the report, and we shall see
>>> if slider values are shown in MSAA, plane text or UIA.
>>> Note that different handles are a great sign as they helps navigate
>>> the windows using window nav functions (get focus, current window, top
>>> level etc).
>>> I hope this helps,
>>> Doug Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The window classes tell us the type of the window sometimes. In this
>>>> case, based on the ThunderRT6 part of the class name, I can tell you
>>>> that the application is written in Visual Basic, and that most
>>>> likely, there is not a lot of accessibility support for those
>>>> sliders. I would have to know if there are more windows underneath
>>>> the ThunderRT6UserControlDC windows to know for sure if more
>>>> information is available to you. Others on the list might well get to
>>>> analyzing this more closely before I do though.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:36:02PM -0800, Annabelle Susan Morison
wrote:
>>>> Then I got the following when pointing to what is supposed to be the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> slider
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> for volume:
>>>> Control ID 0
>>>> Class ThunderRt6UserControlDC
>>>> Handle 70072
>>>> For the Slider for Rate Of Change, I get the following:
>>>> Control ID 0
>>>> Class ThunderRT6UserControlDC
>>>> Handle 70318
>>>> For the command that's supposed to be the Pan slider, I get:
>>>> Control ID 0
>>>> Class ThunderRT6UserControlDC
>>>> Handle 70216
>>>> For the other volume, rate of change, and pan controls, the Control
>>>> ID and Class seem to stay the same, but the number of the handle
>>>> changes. What
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> these handles?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Jeet.kumar1@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:16 PM
>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Atmosphere Deluxe
>>>>
>>>> 1. I asked you to check the class using eather insert+ctrl+f1 or
>>>> homerow mode.
>>>> 2. if it does not work, it means that there is perhaps a slider which
>>>> of course not recognizable to JAWS.
>>>> However, I shall try it myself and let all know. if other people have
>>>> any thaught on it, please chime-in.
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What if that doesn't work?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jitendra
>>>>> Kumar
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:22 AM
>>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Atmosphere Deluxe
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick tip: you may be aware of it, but pleasse switch to screen
>>>>> echo to all, and then try changing the sliders, if JAWS reads
>>>>> anything, that means it presents the info somewhere and the earlier
>>>>> suggestions would work then.
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/11/14, Jeet.kumar1@xxxxxxxxx <Jeet.kumar1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That depends, see if you have those sliders in form of some
>>>>>> trackbar or fader classes, assigning them to a scrol or slider bar
>>>>>> may solve the problem.
>>>>>> Another approach may be like this: if you remember, the
>>>>>>
> sliders
>
>>>>>> on soundforge and goldwave have two ways to present this:
>>>>>> 1. goldwave has a text value sometimes as window name, sometimes
>>>>>> object name and sometimes as value of the fader, in later versions
>>>>>> though, it came like soundforge.
>>>>>> 2. soundforge sliders have some static windows and text boxes,
>>>>>> sometimes they come after and sometimes before the slider, so
>>>>>> scripting it was the most problematic thing I had to do once for sf
>>>>>>
> 6-9
>
>> versions.
>>
>>
>>>>>> Sollution: you may need to track-down the value, how it comes and
>>>>>> where, and then may require scripting.
>>>>>> if you do so, I shall mail you part of my code for goldwave and
>>>>>> sound forge slider scripts.
>>>>>> remember that prompt is a fixed value and may not help you much
>>>>>> since slider keeps changing if navigation keys are used.
>>>>>> HTH, Thank you, Jitendra.
>>>>>> Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, it's Annabelle.
>>>>>>> I have this program, Atmosphere Deluxe
>>>>>>> http://www.vectormediasoftware.com/atmdeluxehome.htm, and I'm
>>>>>>> having a little trouble with customizing some of the controls to
>>>>>>> be recognized correctly by JAWS. Particularly the controls for
>>>>>>> "Volume", "Rate Of Change", and "Pan". They seem to only be spoken
>>>>>>> as "Graphic 0", when I believe they're supposed to be sliders of
>>>>>>> some sort, either "left/right Slider"
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> "Up/Down Slider". I've tried creating prompts for each slider, but
>>>>>>> that didn't do exactly what I want. Specifically, I want JAWS to
>>>>>>> be able to say something like, "Rate Of Change Up/Down Slider,
>>>>>>> 50%", with the tutor message "Right/UpArrow to increase,
>>>>>>> Left/DownArrow to decrease". How do I make this work?
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