[jaws-uk] Re: [jaws-up] Re: Wikipedia

  • From: Dave Perrott <Dave.Perrott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:04:59 +0000

Hi
We have had this problem also, it seems not all the pages use the same 
template, on approx. 30% of all wiki pages have the left hand table in-between 
the first heading and the subject text, where as on 70% of the pages pressing H 
then P a couple of times gets you to the start of the main text but on quite a 
lot of pages you jump from the heading over to the table where you have to 
tab/quick key loads of times before getting to the text, we have tried a few 
things such as searching for text that is often in first line, such as /’ where 
old English or pronunciation is often the next word after key word on first 
line, or tabbing to the hiding link ‘Jump to Search’ which is under the heading 
then ctrl + down arrow to the text. But on a lot of the pages we haven’t found 
a way around it yet. An example of a ‘bad’ page is 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmoor_pony
You can get to the heading level 1 ‘Exmoor Pony’ ok but pressing P or ctrl + 
down arrow takes you to the two hidden links below it then over to the table 
before eventually getting back to the text.

Kind regards
Dave Perrott
ICT Lecturer - VI Centre
East Sussex College - Eastbourne Campus



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jamie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <jamie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 30 March 2020 11:59
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Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: [jaws-up] Re: Wikipedia

Hi,

I'm perplexed about what you are finding so difficult here.  I just looked at a 
few pages and they all had a level 1 heading as the title of the article. The 
start of the contents was a level 2 heading and the start of the main part of 
the page is another level 2 heading.

In all these cases, pressing the letter "H" 3 times got me quickly to the start 
of the body text.  In addition to this, further presses of the letter H took me 
to the various sections of the article.

Hope this helps.

Jamie

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jovian3
Sent: 29 March 2020 22:59
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: [jaws-up] Re: Wikipedia

I don't think that would work since there is a variable length table before it.

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gplongly@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 2:22 PM
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Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: [jaws-up] Re: Wikipedia

I am not sure if the top of the article is always going to be at the same point 
on the Wikipedia page but if it is then you could set a place marker there and 
could then easily navigate back to it. Let me know if you need instructions on 
how to set this up.  Cheers!  graham

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Behalf Of jovian3
Sent: 29 March 2020 17:27
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Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Wikipedia

There is a level one heading but that's not where the article begins. There is 
usually a table after the heading  and then the article begins. Getting to the 
beginning of the article requires a lot of navigation to get there.

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Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:21 PM
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Subject: RE: [jaws-uk] Re: Wikipedia

No. Neither of these suggestions work.

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Robin Clayden (Redacted sender "robin.clayden" for DMARC)
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 5:57 AM
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Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Wikipedia

Or just tap the H key for headings or the R key will toggle you around the main 
regions.


hth, Robin

On 29/03/2020 08:19, LU Ogbe wrote:

The beginning of the article should be a level 1 heading, so pressing
1 should navigate to it. HTH.

Regards,
LU


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Sent: 29 March 2020 00:07
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Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: wikipedia

No clue anyone?

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:14 PM
To: 'jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: wikipedia

Hello

Does anyone have a quick way to Navigate to the beginning of a
Wikipedia article?
Thanks
Jo

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