Thanks for the explanation Steve. I'm finding f8 very useful. Catherine----- Original Message ----- From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Selecting a page?
Catherine, Both F8 and Control + Shift + F8 are Word features that allow you to select text without having to use the Shift key. In extend selection mode, which is turned on with F8, any usual navigation command will result in selecting from the original cursor location to the new cursor location. You can also press any character to select to the next instance of that character, or use Control + F to select up to the next instance of a word et cetera. Or you can press F8 multiple times to increase the selection to the current word, sentence, paragraph or document. With selection by movement mode, which is turned on with Control + Shift + F8, you can also select rectangles of text. As far as I'm aware, you can only use the arrow keys. To demonstrate the difference, assume you're at the start of a line and consider the results of these four operations: 1. If you press F8 and then DownArrow, you'll have the whole line selected. 2. If you press F8, then RightArrow, then DownArrow, you'll have the whole of that line and the first one or two characters of the next line selected. 3. If you press Control + Shift + F8 and then DownArrow, you'll have nothing selected. 4. If you press Control + Shift + F8, then RightArrow, then DownArrow, you'll have the first one or two characters selected on both lines. I find F8 invaluable and I've never come across a situation in which I've wanted to use Control + Shift + F8, but others may be able to. Steve -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner Sent: 04 November 2007 18:07 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Selecting a page? Thanks David - I tried this and nothing is selected. However I've found a solution and thought people might like to know. At first I thought I could use what JAWS calls in Keyboard Manager "Selection by movement mode"; I pressed Control Shift f8 to activate this and JAWS said "Extended selection mode on". (This is confusing because "Extended Selection Mode" is also used to describe what happens when you just press f8 on its own). I then pressed Control PageDown to move to the next page and thus, I thought, select it. However all that happend was JAWS said "Extended selection mode off" and nothing was selected. So I tried pressing just f8 on its own. This is supposed to first select the current word, then with subsequent presses the sentence, paragraph then document. When I pressed f8 JAWS again said "Extended selection mode on". I then pressed Control PageDown and JAWS didn't say "Extended selection mode off" as it had before. I then did Control c and yes - this had selected/copied the current page. So I don't know what the "selectionByMovementMode" referred to in Keyboard Manager is for but the extended selection mode/f8 method workd for me. Catherine----- Original Message ----- From: "David W Wood" <g3yxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Selecting a page?Catherine: Try opening a blank document and then pasting, so that you arechecking ifthere is really nothing selected! I am finding with the latest version of JAWS 8 that this is sometimesthecase. If it really isn't copying, all I can suggest is that you go to thetop ofthe page which you want to copy. Control-shift-home to select to the top of the document. Then go to the bottom of the page which you want to copy, and selecttothe end of the document and delete - thus leaving your page. You can then highlight the whole document and do what you will withit.It is messy, and a work around only. David -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Catherine Turner Sent: 04 November 2007 15:39 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Selecting a page? Hi David, When I try Control Shift PageDown and then Control c JAWS says"nothingselected". I'm using Word 2003 don't know if this makes adifference...Catherine----- Original Message ----- From: "David W Wood" <g3yxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Selecting a page?Catherine: I thought that shift + control + page down selected a page providedthatno search had been previously carried out in that session of Word. David -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Catherine Turner Sent: 04 November 2007 09:59 To: Jaws-Uk Subject: [jaws-uk] Selecting a page? 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