|Ni gel, at least my filing system is not bad, I see you mentioned Guide as early as this, I thought the one mentioned on the radio the other week was something new, he indicated that to me on phone. Anyway I would need more than that. Now looking at the last few lines in will's comments anything new would have to do or stop doing and be logical,not see white print and go off his head as Jaws does. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nigel To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Dorothy's Problem Angel, Good point. I also mentioned super nova as that is a combined magnifier and screen reader. I don't know if Guide can do white on black but if it can that will be much easier to use I would think. Nigel It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Angel To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Dorothy's Problem It would have made more sense to give her a program such as zoom text or magic. ----- Original Message ----- From: Will Pearson To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:37 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Dorothy's Problem Hi, I've taken a look at Dorothy's problem, thanks to Léoni Watson for bringing this to my attention. The problem stems from the fact that the design of JAWS appears to treat all white text on a black background as being text that has been selected by the user. The NewTextEvent, which is responsible for reading any newly written text to the screen, then reads all the newly written selected text in addition to the current line. This will occur when you add text to an edit control, scroll an edit control, or anything that changes the displayed text. Eric Damery's suggestion of disabling the use of "Windows standard highlighting" within JAWS will resolve this problem, although it will cause problems elsewhere, such as not being able to read menus, and as such isn't a valid suggestion. This should be curable by modifying various JAWS scripts to change the logic in the NewTextEvent to realise that white text on a black background doesn't always equate to the semantics of selected text. However, this would be a required change in every script that implements the NewTextEvent, and as such the easier fix would be for Freedom Scientific to do a bug fix on their false assumption of white text on a black background always equating to selected text. If you upgraded to JAWS 6.10, I think it is, you may get some benefit from the Enhanced Edit Mode feature that they introduced in that version. Although, I have to point out that the Enhanced Edit Mode feature has it's own set of problems. Will ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 02/09/2005 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq