[j-say list] Re: j-say Digest V7 #78
- From: "Glitch Matrix, CMD" <glitch.matrix.cmd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:09:52 -0700
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Hello, Ariane,
I personally have a Dell Inspiron 1721, so I can relate not having an
applications key where it should be.
As a temporary solution, I learned that pressing Shift + F10 opens the
context menu on a focused item. This became ridiculously inconvenient
as it required two keys, one of which is located all the way on the
back row of the keyboard.
Eventually, the permanent solution that I applied is to remap the
right control key to become the applications key. I've experimented
with remapping the right Alt key to become the applications key, but I
figured out that I didn't like that as I often use right alt + enter
to open the properties dialog box. If the right alt and right control
keys are both equally important to your daily use, then select a less
important key that you can assign as the applications key.
the program that I use is called SharpKeys, and it does the remapping
on the registry level. In other words, set it and forget it.
SharpKeys is accessible for the most part.
If you are interested in taking a look at this program, visit:
http://www.randyrants.com/2008/12/sharpkeys_30.html
I hope that helps.
Signed,
van
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On 7/14/11, FreeLists Mailing List Manager <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> j-say Digest Thu, 14 Jul 2011 Volume: 07 Issue: 078
>
> In This Issue:
> [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
> [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
> [j-say list] Re: application key on laptops?
> [j-say list] Re: application key on laptops?
> [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
> [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
> [j-say list] Re: application key also the pause key?)
> [j-say list] Egg on my face, was, RE: Re: application key al
> [j-say list] Re: Egg on my face, was, RE: Re: application ke
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:22:17 +0530
>
> Ariane,
>
> How about mapping the print screen key to the microphone on off key? If the
> microphone gets stuck, I usually turn it on or off using the icon in the
> system tray.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:28 AM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
>
> Thank you Sue? It worked!However I still have the problem with the pause
> key being absent from this laptop.
> I can speak "shiftf11"
> which will shut the microphone off however then it's extremely hard to find
> the shift in the F11 key to turn it back on manually.
> Has anyone tried to reprogram another handy key , for instance the "end" key
> and make it the pause/break" key on a laptop that's lacking one ?
>
> I use the pause key sometimes to wake up the program when it seems to lose
> focus and won't accept any voice commands. ---
> any suggestions would be appreciated, thank you so much.
> Ariane
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Original Message -----
>
> From: Sue Martin <mailto:sue.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:10 PM
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key on laptops?
>
>
> Try the command, Context menu, for the application menu. .
>
>
>
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:53 PM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] application key on laptops?
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> " Isn't there a command that can activate the application key on a
> laptop, as it did in the old "JAWBONE" program?
>
> I have been using an older version of JSay for several years after
> switching from the precursor called "jawbone".
>
> When I updated to JSay in 2008, it was installed for me on a new
> Dell 17 inch laptop. The problem is that, this laptop does not have the
> equivalent of, an APPLICATION KEY
>
> nor does it have a "pause /break key either".
>
> I would like to add that if I use the command "right click" it does
> not bring up the same menu as the actual working "application key".
>
>
>
>
>
> This has forced me into a cumbersome arrangement attaching a full
> keyboard next to my laptop which limits my mobility and traveling with the
> laptop.
>
> I must add that I am limited to using just one digit at a time, and
> that is why JSay and jaws has been a lifesaver for me!
>
> this has forced me to limp along with a cumbersome arrangement
> using a full size keyboard attached which actually does have a an activated
> " application key" and a "pause /break key.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Ed. Rosenthal" <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 06:32:06 -0700
>
> Ariane- I've remapped the mic on/off key combination for clients; I'd use a
> key that isn't typically used instead of something like the end key which
> might interfere with commands like 'go to end of line' and similar.-ed.
>
>
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:58 PM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
>
>
>
> Thank you Sue? It worked!However I still have the problem with the pause
> key being absent from this laptop.
>
> I can speak "shiftf11"
>
> which will shut the microphone off however then it's extremely hard to find
> the shift in the F11 key to turn it back on manually.
>
> Has anyone tried to reprogram another handy key , for instance the "end" key
> and make it the pause/break" key on a laptop that's lacking one ?
>
>
>
> I use the pause key sometimes to wake up the program when it seems to lose
> focus and won't accept any voice commands. ---
>
> any suggestions would be appreciated, thank you so much.
>
> Ariane
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> Original Message -----
>
> From: Sue Martin <mailto:sue.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:10 PM
>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key on laptops?
>
>
>
> Try the command, Context menu, for the application menu. .
>
>
>
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:53 PM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] application key on laptops?
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> " Isn't there a command that can activate the application key on a laptop,
> as it did in the old "JAWBONE" program?
>
> I have been using an older version of JSay for several years after switching
> from the precursor called "jawbone".
>
> When I updated to JSay in 2008, it was installed for me on a new Dell 17
> inch laptop. The problem is that, this laptop does not have the equivalent
> of, an APPLICATION KEY
>
> nor does it have a "pause /break key either".
>
> I would like to add that if I use the command "right click" it does not
> bring up the same menu as the actual working "application key".
>
>
>
>
>
> This has forced me into a cumbersome arrangement attaching a full keyboard
> next to my laptop which limits my mobility and traveling with the laptop.
>
> I must add that I am limited to using just one digit at a time, and that is
> why JSay and jaws has been a lifesaver for me!
>
> this has forced me to limp along with a cumbersome arrangement using a full
> size keyboard attached which actually does have a an activated " application
> key" and a "pause /break key.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Kasondra Payne <kassyp36@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key on laptops?
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:43:27 -0600
>
> Ariane,
>
> Your situation is very strange to me. I can assure you that there are
> laptops that do have the applications key. I have been using Dell laptops
> that have that key and every other key. Good luck remapping the keys, but if
> you choose to upgrade in the future, I believe that you can find laptops
> that better fit your needs.
>
> Kasondra Payne
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:57:50 -0400
> From: Doris and Chris <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key on laptops?
>
> No need to remap the applications key.
>
> shift+f10
>
> will bring up the context menu since win 95 when widnows keyboards
> with the win and applications keys were not nearly as common.
>
> hth
>
> Doris
>
>
> At 10:43 AM 7/14/2011, you wrote:
>>Ariane,
>>
>>Your situation is very strange to me. I can assure you that there are
>>laptops that do have the applications key. I have been using Dell laptops
>>that have that key and every other key. Good luck remapping the keys, but
>> if
>>you choose to upgrade in the future, I believe that you can find laptops
>>that better fit your needs.
>>
>>Kasondra Payne
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Ariane Roberts" <aroberts067@xxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:39:42 -0400
>
> (Incidentally, my old Dell laptop did have the "pause" key, but not even the
> Dell technical support person could find a way to accurately substitute this
> key.)
> Sometimes I have used the command "press alt key, tab key" when the program
> goes out of focus and does not seem to respond correctly.
> Thanks in advance to all for your assistance
> Ariane.
>
>
>
>
>>
>
>
> Ariane,
>>
>> How about mapping the print screen key to the microphone on off key? If
>> the
>> microphone gets stuck, I usually turn it on or off using the icon in the
>> system tray.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:28 AM
>> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
>>
>> Thank you Sue? It worked!However I still have the problem with the pause
>> key being absent from this laptop.
>> I can speak "shiftf11"
>> which will shut the microphone off however then it's extremely hard to
>> find
>> the shift in the F11 key to turn it back on manually.
>> Has anyone tried to reprogram another handy key , for instance the "end"
>> key
>> and make it the pause/break" key on a laptop that's lacking one ?
>>
>> I use the pause key sometimes to wake up the program when it seems to lose
>> focus and won't accept any voice commands. ---
>> any suggestions. Would be appreciated, thank you so much.
>> Ariane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Sue Martin <mailto:sue.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:10 PM
>> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key on laptops?
>>
>>
>> Try the command, Context menu, for the application menu. .
>>
>>
>>
>> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:53 PM
>> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [j-say list] application key on laptops?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> " Isn't there a command that can activate the application key on a
>> laptop, as it did in the old "JAWBONE" program?
>>
>> I have been using an older version of JSay for several years after
>> switching from the precursor called "jawbone".
>>
>> When I updated to JSay in 2008, it was installed for me on a new
>> Dell 17 inch laptop. The problem is that, this laptop does not have the
>> equivalent of, an APPLICATION KEY
>>
>> nor does it have a "pause /break key either".
>>
>> I would like to add that if I use the command "right click" it does
>> not bring up the same menu as the actual working "application key".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This has forced me into a cumbersome arrangement attaching a full
>> keyboard next to my laptop which limits my mobility and traveling with the
>> laptop.
>>
>> I must add that I am limited to using just one digit at a time, and
>> that is why JSay and jaws has been a lifesaver for me!
>>
>> this has forced me to limp along with a cumbersome arrangement
>> using a full size keyboard attached which actually does have a an
>> activated
>> " application key" and a "pause /break key.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Sue Martin" <sue.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:07:23 -0500
>
> Hello Ariane,
>
> One option for pressing multiple keys at once would be to turn on sticky
> keys. This would allow you to press and release a modifier key such as the
> shift key, and then press a second key. The computer will consider the
> first key pressed as being held down until you press the second key. The
> best way of doing this varies depending upon your operating system. Let us
> know which version of Windows you're using. You wrote:
>
>> I use the pause key sometimes to wake up the program when it seems to
>> lose focus and won't accept any voice commands. ---
>
> SM: I'd be interested in determining why this happens. I know that wasn't
> your question, Smile, but solving this problem would mean no keyboard
> remapping.
>
> As to that, I either should know how to remap a key and don't, or did know
> but the memory has flown the coop. I'm sure there are others on the list
> who can help with that.
>
> Sue
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:40 PM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
>
> Thanks to all for the suggestions.
> So far the most efficient method strictly using the hands -free method to
> access the application key, is using the command,"context menu" ..
> , also, using the shift key and the F10 key works, but is difficult with
> limitedd dexterity . regarding the other problem,mapping the "print screen"
> key seems to be the best way to go for a single finger operation.
> Is there a step by step relatively easy process on how to map a lap top key?
> Will I need a fully cited person to assist, perhaps using my original Dell
> Computer manual.?
>
> (Incidentally, my old Dell laptop did have the "pause" key, but not even the
> Dell technical support person could find a way to accurately substitute this
> key.)
> Sometimes I have used the command "press alt key, tab key" when the program
> goes out of focus and does not seem to respond correctly.
> Thanks in advance to all for your assistance Ariane.
>
>
>
>
>>
>
>
> Ariane,
>>
>> How about mapping the print screen key to the microphone on off key?
>> If the microphone gets stuck, I usually turn it on or off using the
>> icon in the system tray.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:28 AM
>> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application ke also the pause key?)
>>
>> Thank you Sue? It worked!However I still have the problem with the
>> pause key being absent from this laptop.
>> I can speak "shiftf11"
>> which will shut the microphone off however then it's extremely hard to
>> find the shift in the F11 key to turn it back on manually.
>> Has anyone tried to reprogram another handy key , for instance the "end"
>> key
>> and make it the pause/break" key on a laptop that's lacking one ?
>>
>> I use the pause key sometimes to wake up the program when it seems to
>> lose focus and won't accept any voice commands. --- any suggestions.
>> Would be appreciated, thank you so much.
>> Ariane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Sue Martin <mailto:sue.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:10 PM
>> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key on laptops?
>>
>>
>> Try the command, Context menu, for the application menu. .
>>
>>
>>
>> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Ariane Roberts
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:53 PM
>> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [j-say list] application key on laptops?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> " Isn't there a command that can activate the application key on a
>> laptop, as it did in the old "JAWBONE" program?
>>
>> I have been using an older version of JSay for several years after
>> switching from the precursor called "jawbone".
>>
>> When I updated to JSay in 2008, it was installed for me on a new Dell
>> 17 inch laptop. The problem is that, this laptop does not have the
>> equivalent of, an APPLICATION KEY
>>
>> nor does it have a "pause /break key either".
>>
>> I would like to add that if I use the command "right click" it does
>> not bring up the same menu as the actual working "application key".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This has forced me into a cumbersome arrangement attaching a full
>> keyboard next to my laptop which limits my mobility and traveling with
>> the laptop.
>>
>> I must add that I am limited to using just one digit at a time, and
>> that is why JSay and jaws has been a lifesaver for me!
>>
>> this has forced me to limp along with a cumbersome arrangement using a
>> full size keyboard attached which actually does have a an activated "
>> application key" and a "pause /break key.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key also the pause key?)
> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:50:04 +0530
>
> Hi Ariane,
>
> The mapping will occur in dragon. You navigate to the options dialog, tab to
> the command you want to change, hit the spacebar on that command, press the
> print screen key and that should be that.
>
> As for the limited dexterity issue, have you considered using the sticky
> keys option in windows? See the accessibility options applet.
>
> Pranav
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Sue Martin" <sue.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Egg on my face, was, RE: Re: application key also the
> pau
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:25:46 -0500
>
> Oy, Of course that's how you change the key that turns on and off the
> microphone. I've clearly been thinking sideways. Thanks Pranav.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:20 PM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key also the pause key?)
>
> Hi Ariane,
>
> The mapping will occur in dragon. You navigate to the options dialog, tab to
> the command you want to change, hit the spacebar on that command, press the
> print screen key and that should be that.
>
> As for the limited dexterity issue, have you considered using the sticky
> keys option in windows? See the accessibility options applet.
>
> Pranav
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: Egg on my face, was, RE: Re: application key also
> the
> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:44:56 +0530
>
> No problems. It is always good to expand the box with lateral thinking.
> <grin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Sue Martin
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:56 AM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] Egg on my face, was, RE: Re: application key also the
> pause key?)
>
> Oy, Of course that's how you change the key that turns on and off the
> microphone. I've clearly been thinking sideways. Thanks Pranav.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:20 PM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] Re: application key also the pause key?)
>
> Hi Ariane,
>
> The mapping will occur in dragon. You navigate to the options dialog, tab to
> the command you want to change, hit the spacebar on that command, press the
> print screen key and that should be that.
>
> As for the limited dexterity issue, have you considered using the sticky
> keys option in windows? See the accessibility options applet.
>
> Pranav
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of j-say Digest V7 #78
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>
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