This goes back to thors article the other day, there should be two threat models, one for the actual IT community and one for the technologically insane.. Cos I'd trust my bank to a dsl router, its not my money to begin with, I don't need to change no stinkin default password! Greg From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 5:12 PM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Drive-by pharming http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/012208-drive-by-pharming.html Ain't that the kewlest thing yet. Jim