[isapros] Re: Drive-by pharming

  • From: Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:32:33 -0800

MS is a profit-based business.
If the marketing folks declare that ISA Server will sell meeeeeelions of 
licenses if we'll just add something like the Japoofie Whiz-Bang 
Firewall-like-thingy that CompAmWe sells for $1.298, then the feature teams 
take that seriously.
If we spend too much time questioning the marketing data, they stop providing 
it.
We can debate the value of that result separately, but this is how most 
businesses operate, for good or ill...

-----Original Message-----
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:43 PM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: Drive-by pharming

I blame them for caving, not for creating the problem. I also frequently
disagree with the conclusions that Microsoft marketing come up with.

-----Original Message-----
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:39 PM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: Drive-by pharming

I win!

I had an internal bet that it wouldn't be 48 hours before someone found
a way to blame MS for this problem.
I'm just saddened to say that it was Amy who won me the bet.
MS has built-in expectations in this case based on what the users ask
for.
The thing you have to remember is that there are oodles and gobs of
product designers who depend on the "marketing data" to design features
and in the SMB space, no one is more vocal than the wizard-challenged.
It's these folks who spend $1.298 on their "firewall" because it
supports UPnP (and it still burns).

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:02 PM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: Drive-by pharming

Is there anyone who didn't think that UPNP and whatever Microsoft is
calling the new router config protocol was a bad idea? The worst part is
that it's probably here to stay. Microsoft has built-in an expectation
that routers are going to be configurable into SBS, HOME and EBS and has
wizards there to configure them. So you don't even have to write your
own code. Just alter the data that the server sends.



Amy



From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:12 AM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Drive-by pharming





http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/012208-drive-by-pharming.html



Ain't that the kewlest thing yet...





Jim


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