Hi Joseph, Funny that you mention that :-) I had this demonstrated to me during a meeting last Monday. And you're right. You can't install the SMTP service without installing the WWW service. So, your only option is to disable the WWW service in the Services applet in the Control Panel. I've been working exclusively with Windows Server 2003 so long, that I completely forgot about this. Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: josephk [mailto:josephk@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:10 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda) http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Thomas, On windows 2000 how do you install the SMTP service by itself? I just went though adding the Message screener. It asks that the SMTP service be installed before it can be installed. But, when you try to install the SMTP service, it also wants you to check the box to Install the IIS stuff. Now that is a pain. Is there a way to just install the SMTP Service without the IIS stuff? Thank you, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:59 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda) http://www.ISAserver.org Hey guys, I got lots of rules, though I don't always follow them :-) For example, I'll let IIS be installed, but it must be disabled. There was a similar issue a couple of years ago that required IIS to be installed, although the details are fuzzy now. The only IIS service that I would ever allow run on the ISA firewall is the SMTP service, so that the ISA firewall can act as an SMTP relay. Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:41 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda) http://www.ISAserver.org Not sure about why the install needed it, maybe a bug since ISA installers tend to try to manipulate IIS processes in their routines. You should be able to uninstall IIS, though, now that things are updated. Yes, Tom has many rules of life and that's a big one. Unfortunately there are also life's little paradoxes :) -Shawn ----- Shawn R. Quillman Robert Bosch Corporation RBNA/CSA1 38000 Hills Tech Drive Farmington Hills, MI 48331 (248) 553-1164 (P) (248) 848-6969 (F) shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: SteveC [mailto:SteveC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:29 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda) http://www.ISAserver.org The solution was for me to install IISADMIN, WWW, and SMTP services first, then run update, then disable the IIS services, then reboot. Now SP2 is applied. It bothers me that IIS is now installed on my box when I never had it before - I think one of Dr. Shinder's Rules of ISA Life is to keep IIS off the box unless you need it. :) Maybe there was something wrong in my core ISA setup? Any $.02 appreciated. Thanks. ----orig I downloaded SP2 (isasp2-ENU.exe 3,991,168 bytes), unpacked it, ran update\update.exe, and got this error: The program cannot register fltrsnk1.dll file. And everything rolled back. This is a pretty vanilla install of ISA (single NIC/IP external, single NIC/IP internal), what should I look for to make this work? Also, since I can't apply SP2, this probably kills any chance of upgrading to 2004 on the same box, right? 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