RE: re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda)
- From: "josephk" <josephk@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:39:00 -0700
Hi Thomas,
Exactly! That's why, I need to get more copies of 2003! Next months
budget maybe.
It's like when a company continues releasing new OS and software. Many
want you
To upgrade immediately. But, without a lab to test new stuff in many
companies
Will wait until they have to absolutely upgrade. I know that there are
lots out there
With NT4.0!!! Well, I have my 4 copies now for a start and have almost
got most of the
Internal network redone!! Whowho. Me be happy pugumer soon.
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:34 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda)
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Hi Joseph,
The problem is that people are confusing "installing IIS" with
"installing the WWW service". The problem is the WWW service, not IIS in
general.
In Windows 2000, you had to install the WWW service, even if you just
wanted the SMTP service.
In Windows Server 2003, you can install the SMTP service without needing
to install the WWW service.
Both the SMTP and WWW services are part of IIS. Its not "IIS" that this
problem, it's the WWW service.
HTH,
Tom
www.isaserver.org/shinder
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Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls
-----Original Message-----
From: josephk [mailto:josephk@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:27 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda)
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Hi John,
Yup it is. I was pointing out that many documents as they talk about
the message screener never mention that
You have to install IIS but only the SMTP service. And that's not true
for an installation. You need to install IIS and the SMTP service. Then
after installation delete all the folders under the default web site
just to be safe. Then, disable the service. Also, I could not use the
command line stuff to disable socket pooling on the SMTP Service. I had
to install metaedit 2.2 and disable socket pooling that way. The nice
thing about the
Metaedit 2.2 installation was you could backup your metadata on the
services just in case you needed to Restore it.
Thank you,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:20 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda)
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The SMTPsvc is a part of IIS, and therefore needs the core components.
It is not a separate service.
John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You
> -----Original Message-----
> From: josephk [mailto:josephk@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:10 AM
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> Hi Thomas,
>
> On windows 2000 how do you install the SMTP service by itself? I just
> went though adding the Message screener. It asks that the SMTP
> service be installed before it can be installed.
> But, when you try to install the SMTP service, it also wants you to
> check the box to
> Install the IIS stuff. Now that is a pain. Is there a way to just
> install the SMTP
> Service without the IIS stuff?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:59 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: re ISA SP2 Upgrade Failure - Solution (Kinda)
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>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I got lots of rules, though I don't always follow them :-)
>
> For example, I'll let IIS be installed, but it must be disabled. There
> was a similar issue a couple of years ago that required IIS to be
> installed, although the details are fuzzy now.
>
> The only IIS service that I would ever allow run on the ISA firewall
> is the SMTP service, so that the ISA firewall can act as an SMTP
> relay.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
> Get the book!
> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) *
> [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:41 AM
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> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> Not sure about why the install needed it, maybe a bug since ISA
> installers tend to try to manipulate IIS processes in their routines.
> You should be able to uninstall IIS, though, now that things are
> updated.
>
> Yes, Tom has many rules of life and that's a big one. Unfortunately
> there are also life's little paradoxes :)
>
> -Shawn
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: SteveC [mailto:SteveC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:29 AM
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>
> The solution was for me to install IISADMIN, WWW, and SMTP services
> first, then run update, then disable the IIS services, then reboot.
> Now SP2 is applied.
>
> It bothers me that IIS is now installed on my box when I never had it
> before - I think one of Dr. Shinder's Rules of ISA Life is to keep IIS
> off
> the box unless you need it. :) Maybe there was something wrong in
my
> core ISA setup?
>
> Any $.02 appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> ----orig
>
>
> I downloaded SP2 (isasp2-ENU.exe 3,991,168 bytes), unpacked it, ran
> update\update.exe, and got this error:
>
> The program cannot register fltrsnk1.dll file.
>
> And everything rolled back.
>
> This is a pretty vanilla install of ISA (single NIC/IP external,
> single NIC/IP internal), what should I look for to make this work?
>
> Also, since I can't apply SP2, this probably kills any chance of
> upgrading to 2004 on the same box, right?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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