RE: Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

  • From: "Paul Nuernberger" <pen@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:29:44 -0500

If the line is shared I am hoping that you tried replacing the in-line
filter to see if that helped.  If not, time to do so.

No, 1.5km is only about one mile, so if that is the true wire path distance
you are well within range.  You will need to verify with your telco about
what path the wire actually takes though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:35 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

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 Yup, the line is shared.

Am I wrong to think that my speed should be more?

I wouldn't have thought that 1.5k from the mbr was excessive.

S

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nuernberger [mailto:pen@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:09 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

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Err ... (or maybe Grr ...)

Well, if your paying for a 1.5M DSL line and getting 512k useable bandwidth
there should be some recourse ... But you have to make the call on that one.

Is this DSL line segregated, or does a traditional POTS line share the same
wiring ? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:32 PM
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Bermuda Telephone Company

SLA....that's funny

S 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nuernberger [mailto:pen@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:23 PM
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Sorry Steve, missed your original reply -

Who is the provider and what does your SLA say about performance issues ?? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Berry [mailto:wayne@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:06 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

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Steve,

Well XCompress for ISA would help, since it would compact the HTTP data
making 512 seem better.  Hint Hint

-Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:23 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

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Just speed issues.

I have a 1.5k dsl line, and I'm lucky if I'm getting 512.

Measured the distance to the MBR today and it's around 1.5 kilometers.
Not far at all.

S 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nuernberger [mailto:pen@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:54 PM
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Mre than likely, yes.  I am guessing that it is working, or are you having
issues ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:11 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

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Cool...I thought it was a bit high, I am about 1.5 miles from the mbr
though, might that be the factor?

S 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nuernberger [mailto:pen@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:37 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

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In this case, attenuation refers to the amount of signal loss (from an
optimum level).  It is ordinarily stated in db (decibels).  I hope it is
some other reference factor (like the percentage less than expected or
optimum signal), as a 35 db loss is huge.

SNR does indeed mean 'Signal-to-Noise Ratio', but if you look closely they
use the term 'SNR Margin'.  What they are telling you is the
(relative) margin between usable and non-usable signal-to-noise measurement.
The higher the number the better, because as the margin approaches zero you
have a basically unusable signal (or a SNR of 1:1, which is bad).  I doubt
that this is in any real-world meaningful measurement unit, but simply an
internally derived reference point.

Paul Nuernberger

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:31 PM
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Absolutely

What I'm really interested in is this bit

Attenuation      Near End: 35.5 
Far End: 11.0   
SNR Margin       Near End: 21   
Far End: 25     

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:36 PM
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No... I know its running in G.LITE mode, can I go on :) 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:22 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

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That just show's how much you know..... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:22 PM
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I think it means the adsl line is operational.... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:07 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Way OT. Can anyone decipher this for me.

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Adsl Line Status         OPERATIONAL    
Adsl Mode        G.LITE 
Up Stream        256 kb (Interleave)    
Down Stream      1536 kb (Interleave)   
Attenuation      Near End: 35.5 
Far End: 11.0   
SNR Margin       Near End: 21   
Far End: 25     
HEC Count        0      
Firmware         0x43e2eba8     
15 min ES Counter        0      
CRC Errors       1969   
1 day ES Counter         10     

Thanks

S

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