RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources

  • From: "Thor" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:00:51 -0700

Before I compose my pedantic response, I have to acknowledge the fact that you said "connectoid." Only a bad ass such as yourself can get away with any -oid reference on a Sunday night. I'm just you did not combine it with "kernel mode data pump," or I may have wet myself.

Regarding the default NBT name lookup methods in Win2k, it is actually different. Obviously the nbt cache is first- not withstanding that, if the DHCP server did not set a node type for the client, or no WINS server is explicitly set at the client, then b-node, or the broadcast method will be used first, and then the lmhosts file lookup.

If a WINS server is configured by DHCP without specifically setting the node type, or if the client has a WINS server set, the h-node will be used by default. h-node will first directly query the WINS server, and then perform a broadcast if necessary. The lmhosts file will be used after that.

These can be changed by registry setting at the client, which will set the default regardless of any other default node type assignment, and even overrides any DHCP node type assignment. This would be required if you have no DHCP server node assignment, and you wish for the client to use m-node (broadcast then WINS query) or p-node (WINS server only).

But of course, nbt name resolution sucks anyway.

t

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:58 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources



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What you have to remember is that since W2K, all 'normal' name resolution is handled thus:

if complex name, hand to DNS lookup
   local cache
   hosts file
   DNS server list (using domain name devolution)

if simple name or DNS lookup fails
   local NB name cache
   lmhosts file
   WINS server (if configured)
   WINS broadcast

Thus, it isn't "always" anything in particular, but it depends on the current configuration and especially in the case of VPN
connections, whether or not "use default gateway on remote network" is set in the connectoid.
If a DNS or WINS server is in the "local" net, then the client will use it if necessary (part of the DNS or WINS server list).


 Jim Harrison
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefaan Pouseele" <stefaan.pouseele@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 14:30
Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources



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Hey guys,

I use daily a PPTP EAP-TLS connection to the office and have not experienced
that problem so far. The ISA 2000 SP2 is running on a fully patched Windows
2000 SP4 and the client is a Windows XP SP2. However, with the help of
Ethereal I've seen that occasionally the ISP DNS servers are tried instead
of the VPN assigned DNS servers, although without adverse effect.


HTH,
Stefaan

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan D. Andrews [mailto:bandrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: zondag 19 september 2004 23:06
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal
resources

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So yeah that is what I have done as well.

Correct me if I am wrong - I always thought that when you are connected to
vpn, that internal requests (same domain suffix) always went through your
local dns. Is it all requests or just local domain requests, or does it
actually try first on your ISP then if the DNS is not there it attempts
local resolution through your VPN dns servers?

I ask because we did make some external DNS changes that has a wildcard
entry sending all others to a specific address... but I was under the
impression that VPN users used our internal DNS.

If the way it works is that it checks primary dns first then your VPN dns
servers then this might be the source of our problem...

Thanks.


-----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:33 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources

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Hi Bryan,

Normally this is not the case. However, I too have been plagued with this
problem since upgrading to SP2. I haven't worked out the issues yet, but I
have to get around it by keeping a shortcut to the HOSTS file on my desktop.


HTH,
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan D. Andrews [mailto:bandrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:04 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources


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It looks like to me that somehow when users are VPNd in they are still
resolving DNS from their ISP DNS.

I am affected at home as well. When I ping an internal box via "ping
tatl0s11" it adds the suffix and then tries to ping via the internet.

I had to create a host file entry to get my firewall client to reach isa.

I am not sure what has happened. Nothing changed that I can recall...
event logs look normal. Rebooted client boxes, reset routers, etc.

Any thoughts as to where to start looking are appreciated.




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