RE: VMPS+network security

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:13:15 -0600

Hey Jim,

OK, gotcha. I don't see what VMPS has to do with security. The ISA
firewall is a network security device, the Cisco VMPS is a network
management feature. That's what it look like to me.
 


Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:06 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: VMPS+network security

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Hi Tom,

It was:

"I am in a heated debate with our Sr Sys Admin - I hope that you can
help.
He believes that an ISA server along with standard routers and firewalls
should be the end all to improving network security. He doesn't believe
that it should be implemented with a Cisco solution ie VMPS. Can you
shed some light on this?"

The answer to your question is that since VMPS is not an IP-based
technology, its implementation is independent of ISA and can be used to
augment (security in layers) your network security structure.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 5:33 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: VMPS+network security

http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi Dorothy,

What was the original question?

Thanks!

*Remember, Cisco isn't a security company, it's a networking company.
Also, remember Cisco is *not* a software company, it's a networking
company. Network attacks are now taking place at the application layer,
which means software. Who knows more about software? Cisco or
Microsoft?*
 


Tom
www.isaserver.org/shinder
Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls


-----Original Message-----
From: Dorothy [mailto:fitzhughd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:19 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: VMPS+network security

http://www.ISAserver.org

Ok Fellas....

Of course I knew when I posted to the site that I was inquiring about a
Microsoft product. And secondly when people have networking issues they
don't call Microsoft first. Perhaps I should have worded my question
differently.

I'm looking for support (or a reasonable arguement against) having
network
issues addressed using both platforms. I, of course as a Network
Engineeer
favor all things Cisco and the like. As far as dot1x goes the
certificate
authority and md5 give me pause and difficulty with implementation. And
lastly my good people, my question is how to better thwart unauthorized
machines with ISA that are not governed by its policies. If the ISA
server
can not push policy to them what is ISA able to do with those machines?

Forgive me...our SR guy talks the talk and while there is room to share
on
our network, but I guess I'm just looking for a more clarification of
how
to best integrate this solution into our Cisco network (not the other
way
around). Thanks in advance for fielding a Network Engineer's questions.

Dorothy

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