From what I heard down the street, is that Cisco is NOT a security company, it's a networking company, and some dolts who spent WAY too much on PIX devices are trying to talk themselves out of a pickle. :) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:30 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VMPS+network security http://www.ISAserver.org Funny I just went down the street and that's all they were talking about. That and should I buy low fat milk -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 9:07 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VMPS+network security http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Dorothy, You are aware that you're posting to an ISA list about adding Cisco to your security model? :-) Also, VMPS (assuming you're talking about "VLAN Membership Policy Server") is irrelevant to a firewall security question. VLANs, regardless of the management protocol involved, are an Ethernet, not an IP issue. As an IP-based firewall, ISA neither knows nor cares how you define or manage your VLANs. That said, keep your eyes on isaserver.org; word on the streets is that Tom has an article coming on ISA and 802.1q VLANs... -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy [mailto:fitzhughd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:49 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] VMPS+network security http://www.ISAserver.org I am in a heated debate with our Sr Sys Admin - I hope that you can help. He believes that an ISA server along with standard routers and firewalls should be the end all to improving network security. He doesn't believe that it should be implemented with a Cisco solution ie VMPS. Can you shed some light on this? ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx