http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- Thx all, I will try this tonight. > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Steven Comeau > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:55 AM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This has nothing to do with your ISA box, but with the client machine. > The Client machine has several NICs, one of which is the WAN/VPN adapter > that gets used when you use VPN. I am guessing the DHCP DNS settings on > your wireless NIC (from your home) are a higher priority than the DNS > server settings it receives from your WAN/VPN adapter DHCP settings > (received from your ISA server). This means that addresses will resolve > first to the DNS settings of your wireless adapter - which you seem to > confirm because you manually set them to your work DNS servers. > > Stefaan's link should allow you to undo the manual settings and let the > WAN/VPN adapter DNS settings take priority. > > Steve Comeau > Associate Director of IT Rutgers Athletics > 83 Rockafeller Road > Piscataway, NJ 08854 > 732-445-7802 > 732-445-4623 (fax) > www.scarletknights.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Stefaan Pouseele > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:13 AM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Check out > http://www.isaserver.org/tutorials/work-around-VPN-clients-split-DNS.html > > HTH, > Stefaan > > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Tom Rogers > Sent: woensdag 5 mei 2010 15:58 > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > On my External NIC on the ISA box, I have my static IP info set and a > default gateway. But I have nothing in the DNS IP settings. Should I have > DNS addrs in there? If so, internal or external from ISP? My DNS setup is > a reverse lookup on ISA. > > What I have done to solve the issue is to manually put the private DNS > Server IPs addresses in the Wireless NIC DNS settings, while leaving the > client IP to DHCP and this fixes the issue. I just don't understand why > there is an issue because DHCP runs on my ISA server, and I have VPN > clients obtain the DHCP info from the LAN, and not from a static group set > in ISA. > And in the DHCP config, I have DNS server, WINS server, domain name, etc > set under scope options. > > I have not tried it with a Win 7 client yet. And as I said, it only > happens with computers that are members of our domain. > > Glad to know I am not alone in experiencing this. > > -Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > On Behalf Of Steven Comeau > > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 9:43 AM > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I was hesitant to bring this up before, but now that you corrected > > what you said about the direct IP ping, maybe this might help. We > > used to get the issue you describe because we use split brain DNS. > > Some of our resources resolve to both Public and Private IP addresses, > > depending upon whether the user is in Private or Public space. When > > inside (Private Address Space), machines can ping our servers (like > > Exchange) and get the internal, private IP address (192.168.X.X). > > However, if connected at home or to a café, etc., they get the Public > > IP (at the ISA box). This is by design. However, when they VPN in, > > this is where the issue happens, and it mostly happens with Windows XP > > machines (the issue is fixed in Win 7 from what I can see). When you > > VPN in, it would be nice if the WAN/VPN adapter's DNS settings would be > primary, but that doesn't always happen. > > So, when VPNed in, and say I am at home, and I try to ping our > > Exchange server, the reply resolves to the external IP address of our > > ISA box - this is because the DNS of the home system is primary and is > > therefore getting it's resolution from external DNS. However, if I > > ping the Exchange server's Private space address, it pings back fine. > > Again, this only happens with XP machines. With Win 7 boxes, they > > seem to have solved the issue and make the WAN/VPN adapter the primary > > DNS when VPNed in. To solve the issue on our XP boxes, we run a > > script that puts the WAN adapter at the top of the list so when a user > > VPNs in, the DNS from the WAN adapter, which has our Private address > > DNS server addresses from DHCP, is used to resolve IP addresses - and > all is fine. > > > > You can test this by manually changing the DNS settings of the VPN > > adapter to your internal DNS server(s). > > > > If this solves your issue, I can pass along the script. > > > > Steve Comeau > > Associate Director of IT Rutgers Athletics > > 83 Rockafeller Road > > Piscataway, NJ 08854 > > 732-445-7802 > > 732-445-4623 (fax) > > www.scarletknights.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > On Behalf Of Tom Rogers > > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 9:23 AM > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Ok, did some more testing and here is what I found. Jim you are > > correct, my first statement was wrong "ping 192.168.1.2 should return > > packets from > > 192.168.1.2 not an IP addr that belongs to TuCows domain" > > > > When I ping 192.168.1.2 I *DO* get packets returned from 192.168.1.2 > > > > When I ping *ANY* host_name on my internal LAN while VPN'd in, I get > > this... > > FROM HOME NETWORK (VERIZON FiOS) > > > > PING NT1 > > > > Pinging NT1.COMPANYNAME.NET [64.99.80.30] with 32 bytes of data: > > Reply from 64.99.80.30: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=117 Reply from > 64.99.80.30: > > bytes=32 time=75ms TTL=117 Reply from 64.99.80.30: bytes=32 time=75ms > > TTL=117 Reply from 64.99.80.30: bytes=32 time=75ms TTL=117 > > > > Ping statistics for 64.99.80.30: > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate > > round trip times in milli-seconds: > > Minimum = 75ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 75ms > > > > [Should return packets from 192.168.1.2] > > > > > > PING EXCHANGE > > > > Pinging exchange.COMPANYNAME.NET [64.99.80.30] with 32 bytes of data: > > Reply from 64.99.80.30: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=117 Reply from > 64.99.80.30: > > bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=117 Reply from 64.99.80.30: bytes=32 time=77ms > > TTL=117 Reply from 64.99.80.30: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=117 > > > > Ping statistics for 64.99.80.30: > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate > > round trip times in milli-seconds: > > Minimum = 76ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 76ms > > > > [Should return packets from 192.168.1.5] > > > > > > I have captured a ping with Network Monitor 3.3, what should I look > > for, I do not see the 64.99.80.30 IP addr any where in the capture. > > Prolly not safe to post the capture on this list, should I email it to > > you privately Jim? > > > > Again, this only happens on a laptop that is part of my domain. Any > > computer that is not part of my domain does not have this issue. > > > > I have not tested my laptop in another location yet, only from my home > > FiOS config. > > > > -Tom Rogers > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:33 PM > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > If Tom agrees, I plan all manner of testing; all to be done under > > > the watchful eye of Network Monitor. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On > > > Behalf Of Steven Comeau > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 13:32 > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Have you tried a tracert to the IP address? > > > > > > Steve Comeau > > > Associate Director of IT Rutgers Athletics > > > 83 Rockafeller Road > > > Piscataway, NJ 08854 > > > 732-445-7802 > > > 732-445-4623 (fax) > > > www.scarletknights.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On > > > Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:56 PM > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > The first statement makes no sense at all..? > > > "ping 192.168.1.2 " should return packets from 192.168.1.2; not " an > > IP > > > addr > > > that belongs to TuCows domain ". > > > > > > This happens no matter where the VPN client is located? > > > Wanna do some deeper testing offline and report back with our > > findings? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On > > > Behalf Of Tom Rogers > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 07:58 > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > When I do a "ping 192.168.1.2" for my primary DC/DNS server I see > > returned > > > not 192.168.1.2 but an IP addr that belongs to TuCows domain. > > > > > > When I do a "ping NT1" (server name - which should be 192.168.1.2) > > > for > > my > > > primary DC/DNS server I see returned not 192.168.1.2 but an IP addr > > that > > > belongs to TuCows domain. > > > > > > Here is the IPCONFIG/ALL from the affected laptop when connected to > > VPN... > > > > > > Windows IP Configuration > > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SPWS119 > > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : COMPANYNAME.NET > > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : COMPANYNAME.NET > > > home Ethernet adapter LAN: > > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx > > > Gigabit Controller > > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-AF-XX-XX > > > > > > Ethernet adapter WLAN: > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN > > > Mini-Card > > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-FC-D1-XX-XX > > > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.7.102 > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.7.1 > > > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.7.1 > > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.7.1 > > > [Verizon FiOS]---> 68.237.161.12 > > > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, April 27, 2010 > > > 7:40:06 PM > > > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 28, > > > 2010 > > > 7:40:06 PM > > > > > > Ethernet adapter VirtualBox Host-Only Network: > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VirtualBox Host-Only > > Ethernet > > > Adapter > > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 08-00-27-00-XX-XX > > > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.56.1 > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > > > > > PPP adapter COMPANYNAME LAN (BROADBAND): > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface > > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 > > > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.42 > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.42 > > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 > > > 192.168.1.7 > > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7 > > > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 > > > > > > Notice DHCP Enabled is NO for the PPP adapter - this is because I > > manually > > > set the DNS IP addr to my internal LAN DNS Servers. > > > > > > -Tom Rogers > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:36 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Strange Issue while using VPN > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > > > One statement you made is a bit confusing; " ping my server by > > netbios > > > > name or the correct IP address ". If you ping by IP address, your > > > host > > > > uses an IP address apparently owned by TuCows? > > > > I don't think you meant to say "by IP address" there...? > > > > > > > > Resolution for unqualified names is wholly dependent on the: > > > > 1. domain suffixes used by the host 2. name resolution servers > > > > available to the host By default, a > > Windows > > > > host will use the nearest name services > > > available to > > > > it; as defined by subnet masking. > > > > If those servers are located within the local physical subnet, it > > > won't > > > > use the DNS servers available across the VPN tunnel. > > > > > > > > When you're in this state, the ipconfig/all output from the > > > > affected laptop would be useful. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > On Behalf Of Tom Rogers > > > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:13 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Strange Issue while using VPN > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > I use a company laptop when on the road to VPN in via ISA 2006. I > > can > > > make > > > > the VPN connection fine, but when I try to RDP to my servers, I > > > > have > > > to > > > > use IP address. I cannot use the NetBIOS names. Now from my home > > > > PC, > > I > > > can > > > > with no problems. > > > > > > > > During testing as to why, when I try to ping my server by netbios > > name > > > or > > > > the correct IP address, I always get a result of an IP address > > > > that belongs to Tucows.com showing for every single host I try to > > > > ping on > > > my > > > > internal network. > > > > > > > > Then I MANUALLY put the internal LAN DNS server IP addresses on > > > > the > > > TCP/IP > > > > settings of my Wireless NIC and try it again, and everything is > > fine! > > > > > > > > When I had the Wireless NIC TCP/IP DNS settings set to DHCP, I get > > the > > > > problem. The IP Addr for my laptop is set to DHCP on the Wireless > > NIC > > > and > > > > never needs to change. > > > > > > > > When I do IPCONFIG /ALL while IP and DNS settings on the Wireless > > NIC > > > are > > > > set to DHCP, show my DNS server IPs are correctly set to my > > > > internal > > > LAN > > > > DNS Server IPs, and I have a proper internal LAN IP address for my > > > laptop. > > > > But I continually get the error issue unless I manually change my > > > Wireless > > > > NIC DNS IP settings to the internal LAN DNS Server IPs. > > > > > > > > Anyone know why this is happening? 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