Hi Bjornar, Some things brought up by an esteemed colleague: Here are a few things that set ISA Server apart: Integrated Web caching. This can result in *serious* bandwidth savings, meaning serious cost savings. ISA Server fits better into an existing Microsoft environment (using existing accounts for controlling access to the Internet and for assigning administrative permissions. ISA Server is easier to administer once you get the hang of it. ISA Server has a bunch of excellent add-ins (virus protection, etc.) that are often cheaper than the same add-ins for other platforms and again often easier to administer. ISA Server has had an excellent track record as far as bugs go. In addition, they should take into consideration future growth. ISA Server can easily be scaled out and up. With Cisco, they'll probably have to abandon their current investment and buy new if they are growing. ISA Server has better features at the application layer (which is what will be the most important feature in firewalls in the future.) ISA Server can be extended and customized much more easily by leveraging existing Windows programming skills. Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Bjørnar Stensrud [mailto:bjornar.stensrud@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:19 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Problems convince my sales staff to recomend ISA http://www.ISAserver.org Hi all! Due to both prize and the fact that Microsoft isn't a synonym with security for most people, I have some problems convince our sales staff to recommend ISA. - With ISA you need a server to at least $1500 + W2K ($1000) and the ISA server ($600) - integrated units like PIX and so on, is sold for $500 +. - Checkpoint is still expensive, but is close to what we need to pay for ISA. Because of this, small customers, will then like to have an integrated unit to $1000 or less, while the large customers have there doubts using Microsoft as Firewall.(they need to face there bosses and other with there choices) I know ISA has Caching, firewall, bandwith controll, content filtering and so on, but small customers don't need it, and large customers don't like to put all the eggs in one basket. Personaly, I believe in ISA - but I have serious problems convince customers and sellers that this is the one.... please help..... Thanks Bjørnar ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org/ Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')