HA! You just reminded me of a cruel trick I played on a previous intern (the poor guy actually works for us now). He was tasked with documenting the setup and configuration of a fiber-based SAN and was having trouble getting it to communicate to the HBA. I pointed out to him that the fiber cable he was using was grey-jacketed, but if he looked into the GBIC, he could see that the light was red. ..it was good for an entire day of giggles for the whole test team as he asked around for the orange cables.. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Radtke" <TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 07:05 Subject: [isalist] RE: Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org Try red ones, because they go faster.... Or maybe fewer wires, it too easy to get confused with that many when you are making your own cables.... Troy Radtke -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 5:52 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org 2 length's of gray 3 core per rj45 -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:50 AM To: Isa Weblist Subject: [isalist] RE: Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org What colour? Greg Mulholland http://www.isaserver.org http://www.isaserver.mine.nu http://groups.google.com -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 8:39 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org OK...there's the frame relay connection.....then the router....then a switch...all connected by cable...:) S -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:gregstelatel@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:50 PM To: Isa Weblist Subject: [isalist] RE: Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org damn your good :) Greg Mulholland Stelatel Communications Unit 3 641-643 Centre Rd Bentleigh, VIC Phone: (03) 9576-5699 Fax: (03) 9576-5899 gregstelatel@xxxxxxxxxxx www.stelatel.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2004 10:44 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org See; that's the problem. You need wire and maybe even a switch (some routers don't require one). Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 16:45 Subject: [isalist] RE: Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Tom Nope...T1 Nothing between the router and ISA -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:41 PM To: Isa Weblist Subject: [isalist] RE: Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Steve, Do they use a dial up interface? Thanks! Tom -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:16 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Problem with smtp protocol http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Guy's One of my new clients has a problem with his smtp access. I am not sure if it's a protocol rule or a packet filter yet because I haven't been to site yet, but its a standalone mail server ...(not on the ISA box). the issue is that once or twice a day email will stop flowing, if he disables\enables the rule?\packet filter? then the mail flows again. Sorry to be a bit vague but the customer is non technical and that's all he could tell me...over a couple of whiskey's....lol I seem to remember that there was a fix for this but I can't quite find it...:)) Any help would be appreciated...I won't be able to visit the site until Monday...but it won't do my street cred any harm if I can walk in with the answer, Steve PS....no need to help Greg...:)) This E-Mail is confidential. It is not intended to be read, copied, disclosed or used by any person other than the recipient named above. Unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Optimum IT Solutions disclaims any liability for any action taken in connection of this E-Mail. 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