[isalist] Re: Interesting question...

  • From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Steve Moffat <steve@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:03:49 -0800

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What, "Broke Back?"  That's prob your style ;)

t


On 3/30/06 6:37 PM, "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:

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> 2 words come to mind and they ain't mountain man.....:)~
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:08 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] Re: Interesting question...
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> Is that ignorance you are showing?  That's funny... It looked like your
> ass to me ;))))))))
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> t
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> On 3/30/06 5:52 PM, "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:
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>> Showing my ignorance again...:(..I always thought NAT supplied the
>> external IP to hide your internals...oh well, one learns something new
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>> every day about tcp stuff.....
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>> S
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:51 PM
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>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Interesting question...
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>> Nope - it's not.
>> NAT doesn't break the TCP connection; proxy does.
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>> This is CERN proxy behavior; the upstream server is blissfully
>> ignorant of the "real" client IP.
>> It *may * have access to such niceties as user-agent, but those are
>> not guaranteed.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 17:31
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>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Interesting question...
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>> You are correct, It's doing NAT.
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>> S
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>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:26 PM
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>> Subject: [isalist] Interesting question...
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>> I was trying to assist someone with logging traffic, and this is the
>> explanation I got...
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>> Our network consists of a single Internet filter on the outisde
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>> (Screendoor) with several ISA 2000 and 2004 servers behind it.  The
>> client computer makes a request to a web site that will be blocked by
>> screen door, it passes out the ISA server to Screendoor, Screendoor
>> blocks it and the client ends up with a page could not be displayed
>> message.  Of course Screendoor in that example doesn't know what
>> private ip address that request came from only the ISA server does, in
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>> my case the ISA 2004 server is configured in firewall/cache mode.
>> Because of the problem we had been having with screendoor allowing the
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>> bad site to load if the user refreshed enough times we told screendoor
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>> to redirect the user to another site instead of just blocking them.
>> The redirected site will be on our local web server.  What I was
>> asking is if we could embed a script of some sort on that local web
>> site that would collect their private ip address as well as the local
>> nds/ad username and store it in a log file.  I'm trying to avoid
>> requiring the users to login to the Internet separately from logging
>> into the network and because the Internet filter is outside the
>> firewall integrating it with nds/ad isn't really an option either.
>> We're ultimately moving to a Dansguardian solution anyway and possibly
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>> several of them (inside each firewall and one possibly outside the
>> firwall where Screendoor currently sits) so it will become a mute
> point eventually anyway.
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>> Am I correct to assume that all traffic coming out of the ISA server
>> would be stripped of all identifying information, and the server it
>> was redirected to would only show the IP of the screendoor/ISA server?
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