[isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re: webchaining.
- From: "Michael Ross" <mross@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:25:40 -0600
http://www.ISAserver.org
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The configuration took the password I entered, but apparantly I fat
fingered the password.
So now that I have that working, id like to find a way to see real time
what sites those users are going to.
Too bad you can't tail an mdf file.
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:09 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re: webchaining.
http://www.ISAserver.org
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:)
What was it?
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:25 PM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> webchaining.
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> Ignore.. I figured it out.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Michael Ross
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:17 PM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> webchaining.
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Ok
> Upstream proxy set to require auth (windows integrated) Downstream
> proxy set to require auth (basic and\or integrated) Webchain rule set
> with a specific domain account for authenticating to upstream proxy
> (using
> basic) I get prompted by the downstream proxy 3 times, then I get:
>
> Technical Information (for support personnel) Error Code: 407 Proxy
> Authentication Required. The ISA Server requires authorization to
> fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy service is denied.
> (12209) IP Address: x.x.x.x
> Date: 3/28/2006 8:08:36 PM
> Server: server.domain.COM
> Source: proxy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:59 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> webchaining.
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> No.
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:44 AM
> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > webchaining.
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Will it still enter that data into the msde database?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:28 AM
> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > webchaining.
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > Yes, you can do that. Change the logging format to .txt and then
> > uninstall the "Advanced Logging" by running the ISA add/remove
> > process.
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:15 AM
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > webchaining.
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Here's what could help me out.
> > > Can I enable the downstream proxy to log to a text file? If
> > I do that,
> >
> > > would nothing get saved in the MSDE database?
> > > I could tail that txt file each day to watch where the users are
> > > going.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:45 AM
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > webchaining.
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > Be careful. You need to configure the downstreams to use
> a specific
> > > account to auth to the upstream. The branch office users
> > will not be
> > > authing with the upstream. The branch office ISA firewall
> > itself will
> > > authenticating itself with the upstream -- the users won't.
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:41 AM
> > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > > webchaining.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > So, if I enable authentication at the upstream AND
> > > downstream proxies,
> > >
> > > > a user wont get prompted to authenticate over and over?
> > Ill give it
> > > > shot now and let u know what happens.
> > > > If it works, that would give me one way to back track to
> > > the original
> > > > IP\User
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:38 AM
> > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > > webchaining.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > No, it shouldn't. At least it hasn't the last time I tested and
> > > > deployed it.
> > > >
> > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael Ross
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:26 AM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > > > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Correct me if im wrong, but wont that cause multiple
> > > authentication
> > > > > boxes?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:18 AM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > > > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a Q forya:
> > > > > - why are you only authenticating on the upstream proxy?
> > > > > You should *always* authenticate closest to the user /
> > > > domain making
> > > > > the request.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Michael Ross
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:41 AM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > > > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > > lets take this one step further.
> > > > > on my upstream proxy, i see the logs rolling by, and i see
> > > > usernames
> > > > > and the IP address of the downstream proxy.
> > > > > ok, so that is what it is.. however, when viewing the
> > > > monitoring tab
> > > > > on the downstream proxy, I only see 'anonymous' on
> > every session.
> > > > > How could one correlate those 'anonymouses' with the actual
> > > > user ID in
> > > >
> > > > > the event that you need to trace back web activity to a
> > > > user\IPaddress
> > > >
> > > > > combo?
> > > > > i only have authentication required on the upstream proxy,
> > > > otherwise,
> > > > > the users get prompted over and over to authenticate to get
> > > > out to the
> > > >
> > > > > web.
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:36 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re: webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > Listen here little feller:
> > > > >
> > > > > If the Web Proxy Filter handles the request, then the
> source IP
> > > > > address will always be the IP address of the ISA firewall.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll stand by that until I have a chance to test it, or Jim
> > > > tells me
> > > > > I'm wrong :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > > > MVP -- ISA
> > > > > Firewalls
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael Ross
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:18 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > on my upstream proxy, the before the firewall,
> > its set to Route,
> > > > not
> > > > > NAT.
> > > > > if it was set to NAT, the upstream proxy's IP was shown.
> > > > > so, i was hoping my downstream would show the client IP
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas
> > > W Shinder
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:58 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, that is weird.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael Ross
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:40 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > > > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ya know i think its just odd.
> > > > > right now my upstream proxy sends the
> > client IP to the
> > > > firewall..
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas
> > > W Shinder
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:22 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
> > > > > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't have it both ways. If you
> > want to use the
> > > > local Web proxy,
> > > > > you must accept the source IP address being that of the
> > > > downstream ISA
> > > >
> > > > > firewall.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael Ross
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:18 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org
> > Discussion List] Re:
> > > > > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > i want them to cache locally,
> > but i want one
> > > > place to watch the
> > > > > activity
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas
> > > W Shinder
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:11 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org
> > Discussion List] Re:
> > > > > webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the point of having them
> > use the local
> > > > proxy? Why not just
> > > > > configure the clients to connect directly to the upstream
> > > Web proxy
> > > > > and bypass proxy on the destination server? Turn off Web
> > > > proxy support
> > > >
> > > > > on the downstream and away you go.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > > > <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > > > Blog:
> > http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From:
> > isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael Ross
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March
> > 21, 2006 2:06 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org
> > Discussion List]
> > > > > Re: webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > so basically i have to
> > setup something
> > > > to tail what's being
> > > > > entered into the MSDE database as the users hit the
> web, right?
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From:
> > isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas
> > > W Shinder
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March
> > 21, 2006 1:44 PM
> > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org
> > Discussion List]
> > > > > Re: webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, but you won't have
> > Web proxy
> > > chaining. You need a ROUTE
> > > > > Network Rule and no Web proxy
> > > > services at
> > > > > the downstream. I.e., no local caching.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > > > <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > > > Blog:
> > > > > http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From:
> > > > > isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Michael Ross
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday,
> > March 21, 2006
> > > > > 12:04 PM
> > > > > To:
> > isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org
> > > > > Discussion List] Re: webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > any way to have
> > it log the IP
> > address of the actual client on
> > > > > the upstream ISA? it would make monitoring the
> clients so much
> > > > > easier.
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From:
> > > > > isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday,
> > March 21, 2006
> > > > > 11:49 AM
> > > > > To:
> > isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ISAserver.org
> > > > > Discussion List] Re: webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > That's expected
> > and what's
> > > > > supposed to happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > > > <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > > > Blog:
> > > > > http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > > > Book:
> > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From:
> > > > > isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Michael Ross
> > > > > Sent:
> > Tuesday, March 21,
> > > > > 2006 11:38 AM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > Subject: [ISAserver.org
> > > > > Discussion List] webchaining.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Another
> > question.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I
> > watch my logs on
> > > > > the upstream proxy, I see users coming thru with the IP
> > > > address of the
> > > >
> > > > > downstream proxy, not of the client they are on.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > >
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