ISAInfo found another rev this weekend. W2K SP4 exposed a flaw in my WMI rev determination v 1.9.2 is the fixed version http://isatools.org/isainfo.ex_ BTW, anyone interested in beta-testing the N&I VB6-compiled version should send me an email and I'll add you to the list. I expect to have it ready for beta by EOM. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles!