Hi David, There is a reasonable amount of work for ISA Sever around here, but there still a lot of educaiton that needs to be done. Most shops that already have a firewall are using Checkpoint, and they've paid a lot for it, so they don't have a big interest in getting rid of it. Its the new sites that are more interested, mostly SMBs. There still a lot of educaiton that needs to be done, though. I think a lot of people don't really appreciate the layer 7 features of ISA Server yet. Give it time, and they'll dent Checkpoint pretty good. Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 <http://tinyurl.com/1jq1> http://tinyurl.com/1llp <http://tinyurl.com/1llp> -----Original Message----- From: David V. Dellanno [mailto:ddellanno@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 8:19 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA and SQL request http://www.ISAserver.org lol... On a serious note, I wanted to ask you something Tom. I'm in Atlanta, and I have been watchin the job market for sometime and I haven't seen really anyone demanding for ISA2000 technology. I would say 99% is mostly Firewall-1, have you been seen this were you are?