Oh believe me, I know this all too well. I have a client that insists everyone has admin rights to everything. They are a printing shop. It is a nightmare. One user only works 3 days a week. On her off days, any one and every one uses her computer to work on orders, and when she comes back her configuration/settings/fonts/printers/drives are always sc***d up. I would love to drop this client, but I hate closing doors. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:09 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0 > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > The smart choice is to leave it blocked. Sometimes it's just out of your > hands and a necessary evil to be lived with. More power to you if you can > get them to change their policy. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:03 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0 > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Every time except one I have had a client ask to allow AOL, and I explain to > them what that can cause, they respond will OK, then leave it blocked. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:53 AM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Some businesses run out of AOL accounts. Just because it's not a good > idea > > doesn't mean people won't demand to do it. > > > > Just like a few places we support demand that the end users have the > > abilities of administrator on the local system even though they don't need > > it. It's definitely not a good idea, but it's a requirement by their > > corporate IT. And if it makes or breaks a $4 million sale, administrator > > you shall be. Then they get audited. Then their IT staff gets grumpy. > > Then you take away local admin. They get more grumpy since it breaks > their > > backup software.... Fun, fun for everyone! > > > > So, Jim, you'd refuse to configure a system for someone because it wasn't > > the best choice? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:35 AM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0 > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > That's so cute; relating AOL client to basic security needs... > > I'll stipulate that the clients often have conflicting requirements, but > > it's up to you; the security expert, to educate them. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > http://isatools.org > > Read the help / books / articles! > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 09:14 > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > End user requirements.... End user requirements.... Just like nobody > should > > be local administrator if they don't need it.... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:12 AM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0 > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > AOL has no place in a business! > > > > <Blast shields up, fire away.> > > > > John Tolmachoff > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > > eServices For You > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:32 AM > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > > Subject: [isalist] ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0 > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/techinfo/guidance/2004.asp > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Jim Harrison > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > 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