RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0

  • From: "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:24:36 -0800

Oh believe me, I know this all too well. I have a client that insists
everyone has admin rights to everything. They are a printing shop. It is a
nightmare. One user only works 3 days a week. On her off days, any one and
every one uses her computer to work on orders, and when she comes back her
configuration/settings/fonts/printers/drives are always sc***d up.

I would love to drop this client, but I hate closing doors.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:09 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0
> 
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> The smart choice is to leave it blocked.  Sometimes it's just out of your
> hands and a necessary evil to be lived with.  More power to you if you can
> get them to change their policy.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:03 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0
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> Every time except one I have had a client ask to allow AOL, and I explain
to
> them what that can cause, they respond will OK, then leave it blocked.
> 
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:53 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > Some businesses run out of AOL accounts.  Just because it's not a good
> idea
> > doesn't mean people won't demand to do it.
> >
> > Just like a few places we support demand that the end users have the
> > abilities of administrator on the local system even though they don't
need
> > it.  It's definitely not a good idea, but it's a requirement by their
> > corporate IT.  And if it makes or breaks a $4 million sale,
administrator
> > you shall be.  Then they get audited.  Then their IT staff gets grumpy.
> > Then you take away local admin.  They get more grumpy since it breaks
> their
> > backup software.... Fun, fun for everyone!
> >
> > So, Jim, you'd refuse to configure a system for someone because it
wasn't
> > the best choice?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:35 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > That's so cute; relating AOL client to basic security needs...
> > I'll stipulate that the clients often have conflicting requirements, but
> > it's up to you; the security expert, to educate them.
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >    Jim Harrison
> >    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 09:14
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0
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> > End user requirements....  End user requirements.... Just like nobody
> should
> > be local administrator if they don't need it....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:12 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > AOL has no place in a business!
> >
> > <Blast shields up, fire away.>
> >
> > John Tolmachoff
> > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> > eServices For You
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:32 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] ISA 2004 and AOL 9.0
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/techinfo/guidance/2004.asp
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
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