ISA, and just about any other firewall currently available, has very poor support for VOIP. My recommendation would be to put in dedicated VPN to both locations if it is possible. Try and choose a carrier that will honor QOS or 802.1p packet tagging to ensure the best voice quality. If you use softphones, you can then use the PC to establish the VPN back to the main office, otherwise you need to use a hardware VPN solution on your gateway router in each location. I know that the vendors I am currently using all use VOIP from their homes on regular home DSL or Cable Modem service using hardware VPN back to their main office. They have been using a mix of hard IP phones and PC based softphones. In both cases it is hard to tell, if you can tell at all, that they are using VOIP. Our current configuration has 14 VOIP users at our main office in CA and 10 VOIP users in UT. The 2 sites are connected via VPN over IP on a single dedicated T1 in each location (Not through ISA). Due to a goof in the order process our Cisco 2611's did not have the correct IOS when we went live. So we were not able to use QOS or 802.1p for the first couple of weeks. Frankly, since we made the change and fixed the goof, I can't tell any difference. And the folks using VOIP from home over DSL or cable modems are certainly not using packet tagging. For the 10 remote VOIP users in UT, plus their regular network traffic, we currently average about 200Kb/s. This does not count video conferencing. Best of luck! Now that we have VOIP, the users don't know why we didn't do it much sooner. Ray Dzek Network Operations Supervisor Specialized Bicycle Components PH: 408-782-5420 FX: 408-782-5421 -----Original Message----- From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:37 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] IP Phone Advise http://www.ISAserver.org I have a client that is replacing their phone system and is likely to go with a system that has at least some IP phones. They have 3 locations and full time people that work from home and plan to expand into 2 more locations soon so IP makes some sense for them. It will be much cheaper for them to purchase a single phone system and maintain it from one location. They are running SBS2003 and Citrix servers. Everyone connects to the main office there are no servers at the other locations. We've got lots of bandwidth at every location the remotes have 768 or 1000 SDSL and main office has 2.0 cable. Everyone has a static IP address. No bandwidth problems yet. Here are my concerns: Everyone needs to maintain good bandwidth. I'm thinking that a separate Internet line for the phones would be a good idea. Not only could it provide some redundancy in case of failure but it would preserve the existing bandwidth for applications. If I can't convince them of this or if I have to use the same cable as the computer systems then I'm also concerned about the ISA server. Should I run the phones through the ISA? Is there a reason to have IP phones behind a firewall? Thanks, Amy ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: rdzek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')