Hi William, Does this happen with only PPTP, or does it happen with L2TP/IPSec too? Also, is there a DSL connection somewhere in the path? Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: William England [mailto:administrator@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 2:15 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] FW: RE: VPN Connections dropped http://www.ISAserver.org Hi If it helps any I have found that if I stop only the firewall service on the ISA starting the VPN connection then all works fine. If anyone can explain or shed light on this....please do so. Thanks in advance William