Hi William, OK, try using L2TP/IPSec and see if you have the same problem. If that doesn't help, then we can blame DSL ;-) HTH, Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: William England [mailto:administrator@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 12:09 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: VPN Connections dropped http://www.ISAserver.org Hi I don't use IPSEC/L2TP just PPTP and yes I have a DSL connection. Let me explain setup. DSL modem creates the Internet connect with ISP and ISP is giving me a fixed IP. The DSL modem also has a local IP 10.0.0.138 and is connected via crossed patch lead to ISA external NIC. All traffic received by DSL modem is not filtered in any way but is passed to ISA external NIC. Then from the ISA machine itself I created VPN connectors using network and dialup connections to the external sites. Await your response Thanks William