Re: Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an Enemy of the State
- From: <Hugo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 16:21:22 -0300
Al-Qaeda did not use encryption to plan these attacks:
<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010918/ts/attack_investigation_dc_2
3.html>
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: domingo, 30 de setembro de 2001 18:11
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an
Enemy of the State
http://www.ISAserver.org
I must admit; your position leaves me a little confused.
What is it about the proposed law that bothers you?
I agree that lawmakers shouldn't have carte blanche with regard to the
interpretation of technological questions (see MS vs everyone), but
where
does this law either address privacy or raise your privacy concerns?
Jim Harrison
MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
----- Original Message -----
From: "cismic" <cismic@xxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 1:39 PM
Subject: [isalist] Re: Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an
Enemy
of the State
http://www.ISAserver.org
Hello all,
I'm a privacy advocate and I think that the new law needs some serious
debate.
If someone breaks into a system, then in some respect that person has
identified a hole that needs to be fixed. If that hole goes unchecked
folks with knowledge of that hole will be able to exploit it without
detection.
That's where the debate of the law should pick up. Who is to keep
those
in check that are creating the law? The law makers are not technical
savvy!
I must say that I'm not for the hacking systems except my own. That's
how I find things that I need to fix. Still the law needs to be
debated.
The next law might be mandatory key stroke loggers on each new machine
sold just because no one questioned laws that were being passed in a
moment of anger. The acts that occurred on September 11th indeed are
tragic. But, the more laws we pass will eventually make our freedoms
less free.
And then I say what the hell were we fighting for?
How does this fit into ISA? Well we need to keep reading the logs and
doing some tracking of our own. Once we find the destinations notify
the webmasters and web administrators. Yup cost some time and money
but
well worth the effort to keep more laws off the books.
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:52 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an
Enemy of the State
http://www.ISAserver.org
That's KEWL!
I knew there was a reason I archived my ISA logs...
Jim Harrison
MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:29 AM
Subject: [isalist] Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an
Enemy
of
the State
http://www.ISAserver.org
Are you having problems with hackers and script kiddies wasting your
precious time? Wondering what useful things you can do with your log
files that fill up with port scanners and other more insidious forms
of
intrusion?
If this bill passess, you'll really be able to get back at those guys
who are making you miserable.
http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=22704
Tom
www.isaserver.org/shinder
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