RE: Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an Enemy of the State
- From: "Paul Nuernberger" <pen@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:28:38 -0500
I would suppose that depends upon your willingness to subject yourself to a
lawsuit.
The "point" is that hackers are not terrorists, as has already been pointed
out (please notice that there is a distinction drawn between hacker and
cracker). My point was that 'hacker' is not in itself pejorative, nor
should it be.
Paul Nuernberger
Manager
BARON Computers, Inc.
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From: Jay J. Mobley [mailto:jmobley@xxxxxxxxxx]
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but more to the issue of the thread:
How does Terrorist suit you?
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nuernberger [mailto:pen@xxxxxxxxx]
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Being called a 'hacker' by ones peers is still considered a compliment
in
many circles (other than the cyber-punk wannabe script-kiddie set). I
still
consider myself a 'hacker' of hardware, software, and systems.
On the other hand, I would never allow myself to be branded a 'cracker'
at
any time, by any one.
Paul Nuernberger
Manager
BARON Computers, Inc.
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From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:47 PM
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I have to agree; hackers are not terrorists.
They're a lower form of life.
"Hackers" (or sometimes, "crackers") is the generally-accepted term used
to
define those who, for no reason other than to say "I did it", willingly
and
with malice aforethought, cause damage to data and property, both
private
and public.
"Terrorists" generally have some political or religious motivating force
behind them and usually seek no more recognition than that provided by
their
peers or their deity of choice.
I once called myself a "hacker" until the popular media perverted it
into
something negative (actually rewrote my Kaypro-4 BIOS to support a
real-time
clock and a 10MB Shugart SASI drive). There was once a time when being
called a "hacker" was one of the higher compliments paid by one's peers.
No
more.
Jim Harrison
MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
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