Alan, Yeah, I get those too, but I think I'm old enough to start getting them! Anyway, I guess you're talking about positive planes, right? If so, Shape -> Select Shape or Void, click on the shape, then RMB on the shape to Parameters..., then the "Thermal relief connects" tab and near the bottom, set "Use thermal width oversize of:" and fill in the field to the right to whatever size spoke over the default trace width you want. Is that what you were asking? Good luck! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Longmont, Colorado -----Original Message----- From: alan fisch [mailto:alanfisch@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 4:12 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] thermal webs OK I'm having a seniors moment and I'm not old enough to have one... so that tells you what kinda' day I'm having. I received a board back from the manufacturers and my customer pointed out that the webbing on the thermals looks very fine. I looked back on the database and it reads 10 mil. The gerbers read 10 mil but the webbing on the board isn't??? I'm waiting to hear back from the vendor on that. So my question is where in Allegro 15.1 do I find the control device to change/set web widths. I use positive artwork only therefore no apertures. I know I've set this in the past but can't find the menu now...ugggggggggggg And help menus don't help..:-) Al ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals