Go to "Setup > Drawing options" and click the "Out of date shapes" button (which should be red). A report will pop up of ALL the shapes and their states. Look for the shapes that are not marked smooth, zoom in and click on the coordinate to go to the error. See Jean's graphic. What I have seen very often is that a smaller shape without a net gets placed under a large one with a net. The smaller shape disappears and is marked out-of-date. Torn on the "Boundary" in the stack-up and make it a high priority color, makes it easier to see when this has happened. -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 * 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax) <http://www.tektronix.com/> http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/> http://www.pcb-designer.com "Off-Grid and Proud of it!" -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean Bratton Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 09:56 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: creating gerbers Shouldn't matter which format you use. Good luck...anybody else able to help Sam? _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:50 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: creating gerbers Thanks Jean, its checked. Does it matter with gerber device type i use? Gerber 6x00 -vs- gerber rs274x. Using drawing options it seems to run but when i try running artwork, the update shape button remains. I think this happens when shapes are on top of each other. Thanks Sam -----Original Message----- From: Jean Bratton To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 9:23 am Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: creating gerbers Sam, Check out Setup > Drawing Options, near the bottom. Make sure the "Smooth" radio button is selected. I'm guessing it's not. If not, select it, then select the "Update to Smooth" option, save the board, and you should be in good shape. _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?> ] On Behalf Of sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:37 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] creating gerbers Group: I'm reviewing a layout and I wanted to create gerbers for board, I get error "dynamic shapes need updating". This board has negative planes. I tried using rs274x but i get another error message. Is there a specific device type I need to enable to do negative planes? The update dynamic planes is not working. Any help would be appreciated. thanks, Sam _____ <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100122638x1081283466x1074645346/aol?redir =http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaim%2Ecom%2Ffun%2Fmail%2F> Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. _____