I usually load the file onto a bsm and place it at the board level, this also allows you to put it in a library for future use. Also allows for easy movement. ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of O Migs Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:31 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: [PCB_FORUM] I agree with George. The lines are annoying especially if you have to move the image. RATA can work as a base, but I would avoid using RATA's lined graphics in the actual database database. ____________________________________________________ oscar miguelino | lead pcb engineer | OQO, inc. 583 shotwell street | san francisco, ca 94110 (this message constitutes confidential information proprietary to OQO, Inc.) On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:15 AM, <george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Mike: The RATA program Mike F. is talking about will convert a .bmp to a .plt file, but the results can be... disappointing. Be prepared to do a bit of work once you have it imported. Here is an example of such an import after massaging it: All the lines tend to blend together during the etch process, but it looks a bit ugly when looking at it on the screen :) -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 * 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax) http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.tektronix.com/> http://www.pcb-designer.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/> "Off-Grid and Proud of it!" -----Original Message ----- I seem to remember that somewhere there was a way to convert a bmp file into something that Allegro could read in, and use on a board. Does anyone have an idea how this is accomplished? thanks, Mike Gnieski EMC2 Corp.