[icon-discuss] Re: External stereo microphone discovery
- From: Joe Giovanelli <joegio1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 09:23:19 -0400
Cathy,
It just happens that the Olympus mikes use what is known as phantom power. For
the
record, this is 3 volts. The olympus recorders use this same 3 volts phantom
power for its mikes.
If your Canadian mikes use phantom power at 3 volts, it will work with the
Braille
Plus or the Olympus.
Because of the method that the Olympus mikes use to obtain stereo, they are
extremely
subject to wind, even light breezes. In fact, it is difficult to find a mike
which will
successfully work in breezy conditions, except where the mike 1s designed to
remove bass
frequencies below perhaps 150 Hz.
I have been unable to find a halfway-decent stereo mike using 3 volts. The two
phantom power standards that I know of are 12 volts or 48 volts. Even so, I
have not
found mikes using those standards as stereo mikes. It is possible to obtain
good results with
two closely-spaced mikes, but this is beyond the scope of this list. I'd be
willing to go
into this off list.
Joe G.
On Tue, 20 May 2008 05:45:05 -0500, Kathy Szinnyey wrote:
>Yeah, Joe, I think one of our sets of stereo mikes is defective, or
>rather
>the cable connecting the mikes with the recorder is defective. I have
>these
>lovely mikes made by church in Canada but I think the cable is kaput.
>The
>s51 mike from Olympus works great but is just incredibly sensitive and
>doesn't like to go out into the windy world even when swaddled with
>some old
>windscreen material i=I used from an old mike I had.
>
>So, I'm guessing that any stereo mike should work with the Braille Plus
>as
>long as it's properly seated in the mike jack? Is that a fair
>assumption?
>Peace,
>Kathy
>
>
>
>Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at
>
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>
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Giovanelli" <joegio1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 7:54 PM
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: External stereo microphone discovery
>
>
>Hi, Kathy,
>
>Were you able to get decent stereo with the Olympus mike. You may have
>read
>a post in which the
>writer was not able to do that.
>
>Sometimes you might not get stereo from a stereo mike if it is not
>solidly
>plugged into the mike
>jack. With some plugs or mikes, the case may interfere with the proper
>seating of the plug.
>
>The mike itself could be defective.
>
>Joe G
>
>On Mon, 19 May 2008 16:11:18 -0500, Kathy Szinnyey wrote:
>
>
>>And I'm sure you did this, but you did have your recording source set
>>to
>>external mike?
>>
>>by the bye, I did buy that cute little mike from Olympus we were
>>talking
>>about. I llike it a lot, but howls like a banchee if any wind hits it
>>even
>>when I swaddled it. Hahahaha! But I also found another stereo mike I
>>have
>>that does work in stereo, and I have one that doesn't. Can't figure
>>out why
>>some stereo mikes work with the Braille Plus and some don't. Why is
>>that?
>>
>>Peace,
>>Kathy
>>
>>
>>
>>Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at
>>
>>http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/
>>
>>http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "John McCann" <lists@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:10 PM
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: External stereo microphone discovery
>>
>>
>>| Hi fellow listers:
>>|
>>| Well, am I missing something? Today I took the microphone from my
>>Olumpus
>>| DS50 and plugged it into my Icon, both directly and through the
>>remote
>>| cable. In neither instance was I able to produce a stereo recording,
>>despite
>>| having set the recording quality for 192KBPS, 44.1KHz stereo. Joe's
>>email
>>| below indicates that the Icon should produce a stereo recording...and
>>yes,
>>I
>>| made sure the plugs were fully inserted in to the microphone jack.
>>|
>>| John
>>|
>>|
>>| ----- Original Message -----
>>| From: "Joe Giovanelli" <joegio1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>| To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>| Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:27 AM
>>| Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: External stereo microphone discovery
>>|
>>|
>>| Hi, Kathy,
>>|
>>| I'm sure that Richard will also respond to your note.
>>|
>>| Yes, the Braille Plus has an excellent stereo recorder. When set to
>>it
>>| maximum or
>>| highest quality music setting, the recording quality rivals that of
>>any c
>>d.
>>|
>>| The Olympus mikes work with our units because they take advantage of
>>the
>>| "phantom" power
>>| employed in our units. There's about 3 volts of such power, not a
>>common
>>| standard. I have not
>>| found any mikes which use 3 volts except those from Olympus. I think
>>the
>>| model
>>| number of wha! is or perhaps was their best mike is m e s 2. I might
>>be
>>| wrong there.
>>| These must be bought directly from Olympus and not from dealers.
>>|
>>| Other mikes, even those which do not use "phantom" power, can be
>>used, but
>>| Olympus mikes can
>>| be directly plugged into the mike jack. This is not true for most
>>mikes.
>>|
>>| I'm about to run some simple tests to show me just how well these
>>mikes
>>| reproduce music.
>>|
>>| If there's enough interest, either Richard kr I will let you know the
>>| results.
>>|
>>| Lots could be written about this subject, including considerationst
>>to
>>watch
>>| for when connecting
>>| devices to the mike jaack.
>>|
>>| Joe G.
>>|
>>| On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:47:16 -0500, Kathy Szinnyey wrote:
>>|
>>|
>>| >Hi, Richard. I do not have any of the Olympus products, but would
>>you
>>| >happen to know what brand/model your nicrophone is? Do the
>>recordings
>>| >actually come out in stereo? I didn't think you could do stereo
>>| >recordings
>>| >like that on the Braille Plus, but I'd like to be wrong! Smile.
>>| >
>>| >Thanks!
>>| >
>>| >Kathy
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at
>>| >
>>| >http://www.live365.com/stations/cityslackers/
>>| >
>>| >http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com
>>| >
>>| >----- Original Message -----
>>| >From: "Richard Turner" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>| >To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>| >Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:38 PM
>>| >Subject: [icon-discuss] External stereo microphone discovery
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >| If any of you have the Olympus DS-30,40 or 50; the stereo
>>microphone
>>| >from
>>| >| the Olympus works fantastically well on the Braille Plus.
>>| >|
>>| >| I've recorded several live events and put the level control on
>>| >automatic.
>>| >| I set the quality on the highest music level.
>>| >| I cannot believe the quality of the results.
>>| >|
>>| >| Richard
>>| >|
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