[ibis] Re: [ibis-users] IBIS model for CPHY MIPI standard

From: "Muranyi, Arpad" <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "ibis-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ibis-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "ibis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ibis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 23:02:29 +0000

Ahmed,

I am sorry, but I don’t understand what you want me to clarify for

you. Could you please rephrase your words in the form of questions

instead of statements?

By the way, it seems that the reply you received from Keysight was

a private email (with possibly proprietary information about their

product) which you should not have made public on these email lists

in front of all of their competitors…

Thanks,

Arpad

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From: ibis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ;
Ahmed Essam
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 8:01 AM
To: ibis-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ibis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis] Re: [ibis-users] IBIS model for CPHY MIPI standard

Hi Arpad,

Thanks for your reply.I want to clarify some points in your reply as i have not
used External model for IBIS before

Using the external model for creating IBIS for C-PHY will solve the problem of
the third state.So there will be no problem with driving the line to the
midlevel

There is another solution to use "3 state" model in which we use the receiving
state as the third state but it is not supported to simulate that IBIS model.

Thanks,

Ahmed

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:32 AM,
<nilesh_kamdar2@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:nilesh_kamdar2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hello Ahmed

Do you have access to Keysight ADS? It can handle MIPI CPHY signals. For e.g.

[cid:image001.jpg@01D23917.CD0C92B0]

This is how the 3 level source is constructed:

[cid:image002.jpg@01D23917.CD0C92B0]

And what some of the waveforms look like:

[cid:image003.png@01D23917.CD0C92B0]

If you are interested in this approach, let me know and I will connect you with
the local Keysight Sales team in your region.

Thanks

Nilesh Kamdar

Applications Engineering

Western District Manager

Keysight EEsof EDA

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From: ibis-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:ibis-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
On Behalf Of Ahmed Essam
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 12:57 PM
To: ibis-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
ibis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ibis-users] IBIS model for CPHY MIPI standard

Dear ALL,

I have faced a problem while creating IBIS model for CPHY MIPI standard.The
standard has 3 states on the transmission line (High,Low,Midlevel) .

The transmission line is driven to high state through pull up device,driven to
low state through pull down device,driven to mid level state through both pull
up & pull down devices.

I wonder if IBIS standard can model CPHY standard "driving the transmission
line to 3 states" .

Thanks,

Ahmed

References:
- [ibis] Re: [ibis-users] IBIS model for CPHY MIPI standard
  - From: Ahmed Essam

[ibis] Re: [ibis-users] IBIS model for CPHY MIPI standard

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