Mike, AMI is kind of unrelated to the package model. AMI is an algorithmic model which uses a channel response and processes it with statistical algorithms. The reason I said "kind of" is because for generating a channel response, you have to have a full description of the channel, including the Tx, Tx_pkg, T-lines (connectors vias, etc), Rx_pkg, Rx. This is what we call the analog simulation which you need to do once to generate a channel response, but this is usually an independent simulation step which precedes the AMI "simulations". Arpad ============================================================ ________________________________ From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike DeVita Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:00 AM To: IBIS-ATM; ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Question on package models Hi, How does the IBIS package model (either embedded or stand alone) work with a AMI based link? Is it still expected to provide RLC data coupled and/or uncoupled? I do not think this is sufficient to correctly model the package portion of the channel for use with an AMI block/high speed SERDES. Mike DeVita Staff Engineer, Application Engineering & Characterization VM 480 821-2408 ext 5021 FAX 480 821-1713 EM mike.devita@xxxxxxxxx