Audio ===== Voice dial-in: (800) 637-5822 International: +1 (647) 723-3937 Access Code: 685-0440 Web === Click Here to Join Live Meeting https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sisoft/join?id=NKQQN3&role=attend&pw=TP8j %23-%25%7E5 FIRST TIME USERS: To save time before the meeting, check your system to make sure it is compatible with Microsoft Office Live Meeting. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda ====== A) Opens B) Call for any related patent disclosures C) Review of ARs: - Michael M.: Summarize options/directions in a couple of for our differential feature enhancements Old ARs: - AMI BIRD authors meet to prove AMI BIRD can handle Mellitz cases - Mike S send non-proprietary information on studies he performed - done - EDA vendors: Please check internally about the preference of your company regarding how we should proceed with the features proposed for differential models. Should we handle this in a quick and easy way or a cleaner but somewhat more involved way? - done - Michael M.: Sketch new IBIS interconnect plan - in progress - Walter: Coordinate completion of true diff BIRD draft - in progress - Michael M.: Draft Eye keywords for true diff BIRD - in progress - Randy: Draft derating keywords for true diff BIRD - in progress - Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal (BIRD draft) for *-AMS models in IBIS that is consistent with the parameter passing syntax of the AMI models - not done - TBD: Propose a parameter passing syntax for the SPICE [External ...] also? - Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries. - deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do D) Report by the Receiver Measurements Subcommittee 1) Walter will review three phases (BIRDS) of "Receiver Measurements". 1a) We will focus on the first phase; defining new IBIS "Receiver Measurements" parameters required to satisfy current and future industry needs. Later phases will address the need to formalize and name "Standards", and using hierarchical rules with the use of Include files or other mechanisms to be looked at that time. 1b) Phases (BIRDS) i. Identifying Industry Standard "Receiver Measurements" 1. Conflict between how this particular [Model] works vs. industry compliant standards that [Model] must satisfy. a. When analyzing a DDR2 interface does the user want to determine 1. Will this work with any Vendors dimm 2. Will this work with a specific Vendors dimm b. Will the dimm vendor supply IBIS files that 1. Satisfy the Jedec "Receiver Measurements" standard 2. Reflect the actual performance of the [Model] 2. Buses a. DDR2 b. DDR3 c. USB-2 d. SATA e. XAUI f. PCI Express g. PCI Express Gen. 3 h. ... 3. General approach is to not invent new methods of analyzing receiver waveforms, but to add new IBIS parameters to satisfy existing, documented accepted industry standard "Receiver Measurements" (e.g. JEDEC) 4. New measurements a. tVAC b. Derating c. VCM_overshoot_low and VCM_overshoot_high (in addition to Vcross_low and Vcross_high) d. Eye Template e. ... 5. New ways of describing existing measurement rules a. Vinh_ac, Vinh_dc, Vinl_ac, Vinl_dc 1. Currently one value adjusted by Vth, Threshold_sensitivity, Reference_Supply 2. JEDEC DDR2 and DDR3 require that typ, min and max values be specified b. Vdiff_ac, Vdiff_dc 1. Same problem as Vinh_ac 6. Add Vdiff to [Model] 7. Cleanup Tslew_ac, Tdiffslew_ac a. Existing rule is between ac and ac, which makes no sense b. Define min and max slew times between 1. dc_vref 2. dc_dc 3. dc_ac 4. vref_dc 5. vref_ac 8. Will not address [Diff Pin] tdelay_typ, tdelay_min, tdelay_max since these are not "Receiver Measurements" 9. Grouping existing and new measurement rules into named industry "Standards" ii. Supporting named "Standards" in IBIS files iii. Supporting includes or other hierarchical data in IBIS files 2) Randy will present work on tVAC. 3) MM will present any new work on Eye Template. Thanks, Arpad ===================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe