Hi Greg, The "application scenario" describes the program flow, while the "reference flow" describes the math of the exact algorithm, which is not provided in the program flow description. My presentations at Quality work group meetings (17-AUG-2011, 06-SEP-2011) contain algorithmic details of the "reference flow". http://www.eda.org/ibis/quality_wip/archive-date.html Regards, James Zhou From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:10 AM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD 120.1 Question Scenario to me means possible situations, Reference flow to me means "thou shall do this and that". Arpad ========================================= From: Gregory R Edlund [mailto:gedlund@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:58 AM To: Muranyi, Arpad Cc: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD 120.1 Question Arpad, I'm not clear yet. Both sections seem to be describing what's going on inside of the simulator. Is there some subtle difference between an "application scenario" and a "reference flow" that I'm not picking up on? Greg Edlund Senior Engineer Signal Integrity and System Timing IBM Systems & Technology Group 3605 Hwy. 52 N Bldg 050-3 Rochester, MN 55901 [cid:image001.gif@01CD010C.0D933940]"Muranyi, Arpad" ---03/13/2012 10:40:44 AM---Greg, Section 2 is called APPLICATION SCENARIOS and section 3 From: "Muranyi, Arpad" <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>> To: "ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Date: 03/13/2012 10:40 AM Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD 120.1 Question Sent by: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________ Greg, Section 2 is called APPLICATION SCENARIOS and section 3 is called Reference Flows. The first sentence in section 2 says: | The next two sections provide an overview of the two simulation types | supported by the IBIS-AMI specification. and the first sentence in section 3 says: | The next two sections define a reference simulation flow for statistical | and time domain system analysis simulations. Does that answer your question? Thanks, Arpad ========================================================= From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gregory R Edlund Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:36 AM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ibis-macro] BIRD 120.1 Question Can anybody explain the difference between section 2.2 and 3.2 of BIRD 120.1? Both seem to be describing the high-level process for calculating a voltage-time waveform from AMI models, a channel, and a bit stream. Thanks. Greg Edlund Senior Engineer Signal Integrity and System Timing IBM Systems & Technology Group 3605 Hwy. 52 N Bldg 050-3 Rochester, MN 55901 ________________________________ This message and any attached documents contain information from QLogic Corporation or its wholly-owned subsidiaries that may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute, or use this information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message.