Ok, I don't see my first message so I will send this one to clarify. I thought I could use sight_range_mod as the sight_range in and of itself, so that sensors on a ship would work would dictate the range. I guess it doesn't work if there is no sight_range flag at all, so that was what happened. I added a sight range of 1 to everything and now it all works when activated, but not passively. Sorry, al "The truth will set you free" Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.