More progress on the Twins: You may recall, from the previous exciting episode, I was trying to get my $3 Handspring Visor to sync up with Ubuntu 7.10. No joy. After looking around the Ubuntu site, I found (and Lee also forwarded) the following info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices Following the destructions in the URL I created a file named: /etc/udev/rules.d/10-custom.rules and populated it with the following single line: BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB[13579]", NAME="pilot", GROUP="uucp", MODE="0660" I also made an additional entry in the file: /etc/modules of: visor Eureka (and other vacuum cleaners)! It works! Tnx to Lee. If anyone wants me to pick one of these up at the Goodwill Computer Store, let me know. I have almost talked EA into one - to store numbers and addresses for her near the phone. cln Lake Buchanan Meanest man on Emeralds Drive ______________________________________________________________________________ Highland Lakes Linux User Group (HLLUG): http://www.hllug.org HLLUG mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/hllug