On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Karl vom Dorff wrote: >> Hmmm... I'm just wondering, perhaps a nicer (possibly cheaper) prize >> for the TYA would be: >> >> http://www.cafepress.com/haiku_os.295451384 Generally, I think it's a very good idea: - $50 doesn't make a huge difference in the life of the winner. Plus, cash isn't fun. - The shirt is a souvenir for the TYA when the money would be gone for years. - It's Haiku PR wherever it's worn. - A (small) part of the spent money flows back to Haiku. - It's less of a strain on the scarce TYA funds. However: There's no connection between the shirt and the TYA. It's like any Haiku shirt anyone can order. I see two possible solutions to this: 1) With Haiku Inc.'s permission, have original Haiku shirts with an added "TYA-Winner" emblem put somewhere. (Can you have a cafepress-shop that is closed to the general public, so not anyone can order a TYA-shirt?) 2) Send a "TYA-Winner" button separately in addition to the Haiku shirt from cafepress. Not that classy, but more flexible: you (and later the winner) can combine the button with any shirt. In any case, we need to get a fantastic TYA-Logo designed for the added winner emblem or the button. The logo should of course also be on the TYA website. Now, who can design a nice logo? Maybe we'll find someone on the mailing lists. >> Although, that would involve shipping, etc. >> >> But, perhaps if someone from Europe wins the TYA, I could transfer >> funds to someone on the list here that lives in Europe, and they >> could ship the item... As Dennis said, I think you can enter any shipping address with cafepress. Anything else would probably only increase costs. If we go with an additional button, I can easily order a dozen buttons to ship to European TYA winners. Maybe also put some other stuff in it (stickers, badges, posters... cookies). Maybe, if we ship something separately anyway, we could also come up with a visually pleasing TYA-certifikate the winner can proudly put up on his wall. :) Regards, Humdinger -- --=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-=--=-- Deutsche Haiku News @ http://haiku-gazette.blogspot.com