On 8/1/07, Axel Dörfler <axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Furthermore, the continued unjustified accusations from Koki et all (in > talkbacks at OSNews and other places) about all those internal and > openness problems of Haiku seem to shed a negative light on the > alternative event for some members of the team. I think that's mostly a sensitivity thing. Human nature seems to cause us to hold grudges. I see it on both sides here - on one side, some people who were vocal before are now claiming "i told you so" - while others are complaining that certain individuals are still making trouble. Depending on your viewpoint, both sides could be right, but I think we all should be taking that higher road - at least publicly - and acknowledging that we all have different opinions - we should simply agree to disagree and move on. If the previous mailing list fiasco hadn't happened, I'm not sure everyone would be so bitter and angry toward each other. A little bad PR here and there *should* be expected - I think it's healthy in fact. Doesn't it go: What doesn't kill you makes you stronger? It reminds of that "poisonous people" video again. You have to step back and look at it from all sides - many times the poison comes from outside, but sometimes it comes from within. I say this because a few grudges being held by Haiku, Inc. admins isn't going to make things better, it's going to create more unwanted tension for everyone. It would behoove the admin team to maybe listen to the community on this one - I'm sure there are a few vocal community members who are strongly against FalterCon because of what they *perceive* that it stands for, but I wouldn't be surprised if a large majority is for it. You can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I'm going to FalterCon because I want to meet some long-time Haiku community members that I haven't met yet (Bryan, Scott, Travis, Michael S.). It will also give me an opportunity to promote Haiku physically to some Linux "zealots" ;) It should be no secret that Koki and I get along well also - but I can definitely understand how others may not like the tone with which he communicated on the mailing list. Everyone should realize that in real life, people can be different, and WalterCon and FalterCon represent real life events. Anyhow, just wanted to add some personal thoughts and viewpoints to the discussion.