[openbeos] AW: Re: AW: Re: distropia
- From: "Chira, Valentin" <Chira@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 14:06:46 +0100
Hi, when I say they wanna help I don't meany kernel and so forth because
maybe 1% from BeOS fans are able to help there. I think there are a lot of
tasks that one can do also with limited C/C++ knowledge or not much time in
their hands. The question still remains: can one create an iso and run
something today? would that be possible in the next 2-3 months? I mean as an
independant OS not just change some packages in BeOS.
regards
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Adi Oanca [mailto:adioanca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Februar 2005 12:33
An: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [openbeos] Re: AW: Re: distropia
OK,
Here's what I think/know:
People who did want to work on Haiku did contacted us and *did*
helped us. Men like Phatz which wrote the low level communication API
between libbe.so and app_server, like Stephan Assmus which took the daunting
task of writing Painter class which app_server will use for lower level (on
screen) drawing, like Oliver Tape which provided us with a very good GNU
Complier Collection.
You see... IF anyone wants to help, he can.
Now, you are a bit right, we should give tasks for anyone willing to
work. As no team leader seems to ask, I'm inclined to think they don't need
help, they only need time!
There aren't as many areas to work in, or at least I don't see them.
Maybe we should send this working force elsewhere (I'm sure Michael won't
agree this one) like in the area of creating *Very nice* applications for
Haiku/BeOS. I for example, would like a graphical localcopy/CVS browser with
the ability to see tree-like information on files with comments, with a
graphical diff between versions, but I don't have the time for such a thing.
Also a Personal Information Manager would be great. A TotalCommander-like
program. A software update program. etc.
There are ways to help Haiku, it is not necessary to get involved
with core elements development.
bye,
Adi.
Chira, Valentin wrote:
> Hi, what I don't get is, why such a big discussion when the R1 is so
> far away..or is it not? If one can already build something useful from
> Haiku CVS why not create a distro team? There are many peoples that
> could give a hand there... The biggest problem of haiku is not the
> distros right now..the problem is that a lot of people would help the
> project but don't know how..nobody knows really what's the status of
> the whole project , no one can figure out if R1 will come this year or
> in 5 years. I think it would be great if you could make a distro team
> or haiku build team or whatever..this team should create ISOs that one
> can run test and send feedback. the lack of infos from Haiku project
> is killin the community. Same is true for the java virtual machine
> project..they don't want more developers but we wait since 2 years
> already with no result. peoples will not wait longer..they will go to
> alternate projects that are farther down the release line..like
> www.skyos.org or syllable. If you want to implement a 10 users OS than
> you are welcomed. I understand the work that you do but without no
> results after 4-5 years you will end up having no more users that
> believe in Haiku cause.
>
>
> regards,
> Valentin
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mattmadia [mailto:mattmadia@xxxxxxxxx]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Februar 2005 10:54
> An: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: [openbeos] Re: distropia
>
>
>
>>From: "Adi Oanca"
>>
>>>but I REALLY *DON'T* want others to just take our 4-5
>>>years effort, sell it, improve and then make lots of money out of it
>>>while pushing Haiku-OS.org in the back scene.
>>
>>Usually, competition is a good thing (although it may take a while for
>>the market to sort itself out).
>>
>>Haiku, Inc., just has to decide whether it wants to be a player or
>>not. I think it should.
>>
>>-Matthijs
>
>
> building on top of Matthijs's text,
>
> IMVHO, the best way to reduce the amount of distros is to provide the
> best possible base.
> people will only try to re-invent the wheel if they think they can do
> it better. Ideally, only nut-balls and geniuses should want to do
> this :-)
>
> who knows maybe some of the distro-makers will be able to give back to
> Haiku Inc or the community.
> ( goods, services, increasing our userbase, additional news headlines,
> etc. )
>
> Having 1 and only 1 distro breeds consistency at the expense of
> creativity, experimentation, and general radical thought. Multiple
distro's
> allows specialization and creative+artistic freedom.
> ... only time will tell if someone makes something magnificent ouf of a
> distro.
>
> in short, discourage distrobution creation by doing our best to
> provide
> a complete and thorough OS.
> however, do not restrict willing people to do what they want with it.
>
> There will always be the official Haiku-OS version; distros will come
> and go.
>
> mmadia
> -----------------
> Save your PC.
> Plant a Haiku Tree.
> http://haiku-os.org
>
>
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