[haiku-development] Re: Vim episodes. IV. It is ready to breathe...
- From: "Axel Dörfler" <axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 20:23:36 +0200 CEST
Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Jonas Sundström schrieb:
> > "Axel Dörfler" <axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I think one command line editor should really be
> >> enough. Whether this is vim or nano I don't really
> >> care about, but since we always had vim (even BeOS),
> >> I would vote for that one. If you really need another
> >> command line editor, just go ahead and install it.
> > If a choice -has- to be made, I would say that the people
> > who prefer vim are more likely to know how to install it.
Hehe, almost good point :-)
> > Minor issue - which editors to include - I know, but I
> > find it interesting to question the CLI as a freehaven
> > for (only) developers and experienced users / with a
> > high tolerance for a steep learning curve.
I would argue people who use the shell always need to know what they
are doing.
If you are not only remotely connected to a system, you would use a
real editor, anyway.
[...]
> If vi has to be present for POSIX compatibility, then so be it, but
> please let that not force our choice of a sensible command line
> editor
> being available. "Oh, we don't like shipping two apps for the same
> purpose? - Tough luck, vi(m) it has to be!" ;-) It's not like you get
> one more choice when you right click a text file and go to "Open
> With".
> It's a complete non-brainer, something that doesn't ever get in the
> way.
> But the day I have to fix something remotely and find out I forgot to
> install an alternative to vim would be a totally unnecessary
> disappointment.
If you have remote access, you can still just install nano with the
great package manager we'll have then ;-)
In any case, I got your point, but I still wouldn't really like to have
two apps for the same purpose - for the sake of cleanliness. But I know
how to use vim, so I am not sane anyway.
How about a compromise: we don't include nano in the base install (that
comes with no extra apps), but we do in the full distro? Someone could
create an optional package for nano, too.
Bye,
Axel.
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