On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:17:08AM +0100, Siarzhuk Zharski wrote: > It could be reverted some decades later after the theming support > will be implemented completely. IMHO, abrupting contributors' > initiative is not the best way to achieve more fresh blood for > development. :-( We have a policy in Haiku that says: "don't hide the bugs, fix them instead". The theming feature is almost there, all the drawing is done by the BControlLook class, and it's only missing support for replacing this class, likely through add-ons like for decorators. This opens a way for endless tweaking of the UI themes, and then, maybe we'll get one that looks better than the current one and we can replace it. On the other hand, adding all kind of bell and whistles support to the existing control look implementation, and support for it in the Appearance preflet, actually makes it harder to do themes. If you have a setting for scrollbar knobs in appearance, then you have to support it in all themes. And the more options you add, the harder writig a theme gets. Instead, we must make sure that the theme gets high-level information like 'draw a scrollbar here'. It's up to the theme to decide if the scrollbar should have knobs, buttons, or whatever. This can be configured differently for each theme, so it shouldn't be in the appearance preflet, or at least the appearance preflet should ask the theme "please give me your settings view so I can add it to the preflet". We're not trying to abrupt initiatives, only give hints on how to get things done right. We already spent some time talking about that onthe rounded buttons (saying that should belong to a theme, etc.), and we get exactly the same on these scrollbars now. That makes two reasons for making that new Haiku theme, which I actually look forward to seeing. I may even write my own themes if there's an API for that. So, if UI bothers you, please work on the theme support first, THEN on writing your own theme. not hacking the code around to just see how it looks. -- Adrien.