[haiku-bugs] Re: [Haiku] #7837: [Tracker Preferences] Make "Single window navigation" default
- From: "pulkomandy" <trac@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:37:06 -0000
#7837: [Tracker Preferences] Make "Single window navigation" default
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Reporter: deejam | Owner: axeld
Type: enhancement | Status: closed
Priority: normal | Milestone: R1
Component: Applications/Tracker | Version: R1/alpha3
Resolution: invalid | Keywords:
Blocked By: | Blocking:
Has a Patch: 0 | Platform: All
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Comment (by pulkomandy):
Humdinger: not really for me, as I said above the key point of spatial
mode is that window don't close themselves and folders don't go away.
aldeck: the decision process is that one in Haiku. Developpers with svn
commit access have voting right and make decisions. I didn't make it that
way, but that's how it works. We said in previous posts that this was
debated more than enough in previous ML posts, and pointed to some pages
explaining why we thing spatial mode is better. I haven't seen a single
page showing why single-window mode is better.
As for keeping 2 different modes, actually, I find that necessary. Mixing
them would lead to something no one like to use. They are two very
different ways of working, 2 ways of thinking. They both make sense, but
mixing them results in something that doesn't make sense and has
contradictions.
I already explained that I think we need two separate apps : a file
browser and a file manager. The file browser is made for navigating a
directory hierarchy and finding things out. Tracker in spatial mode does a
great job for that. The file manager, on the other hand, is a tool
dedicated to copying, moving, renaming files. As of now, I use terminal
and bash for this. On my Amiga I used Directory Opus 4, while the amiga
Workbench allowed browsing in spatial mode. On Windows 95, you could use
both, with right-click>explore to enter some kind of single window mode
(in a more useful way, with a tree on the left), and double clicking
entering spatial mode. This may still wrk if you enable spatial mode in
later Windows releases. Unfortunately, it will be hard for us to do this
in a convenient way, because our spatial mode already uses a lot of
shortcuts.
I would really like to know why people are not using spatial mode, but the
only two answers I got so far are :
* "Other OS do not do it" - this is not a valid argument
* "I always end up with a lot of open windows all around" - I must say I
very rarely encounter that problem. My answer is to use the XRay / drill-
down menus to only open the directory you actually want to use, and
remember of alt+up shortcut as "open parent", that's the only one I know
and use.
Spatial mode really works great, it takes some time to get used to and
needs you to organize your windows, but it's really powerful. Each window
has its own settings as to how to show it. My application folders show an
icon view so apps are easy to find by their icon, my mail folder is sorted
by date, my music folders are sorted by track number. In single-window
mode, this doesn't hold anymore, as the view settings are no longer mapped
with a folder, but with a window. On the other hand, when sorting out a
big mess of files, I really want to use list mode, a sorting criterion
that matches what I'm doing, and likely 2 open windows : source/target. In
that case, single window is the way. But I don't think that's tracker job,
I'd use a separate tool like
http://pulkomandy.lexinfo.fr/~beosarchive/?file=archive/nosource/util/fileman/opusiv1.0.zip
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